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Hello and welcome to the United
States Patent and Trademark

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Office webinar series for
experienced practitioners.

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Today's topic is transitioning
from TEAS to Trademark Center.

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My name is Mariessa Terrell and
I'm an attorney in the

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Trademarks Customer Outreach
Office.

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I'm pleased to serve as your
host today.

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Now we before we start, I'd like
to express our sincere

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appreciation for your
participation today.

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Believe it or not, we had over
2200 trademark practitioners,

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paralegals, business owners, and
students registered to attend

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this webinar.

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Some of you joined via Webex and
some of you joined via Teams.

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We added that a separate
platform to accommodate the

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overflow today.

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Thank you so much for your
participation.

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Now after 26 years, the
trademark electronic application

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system known as TEAS is being
retired in phases.

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And as part of our goal to
modernize our information

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technology systems, we're
currently developing Trademark

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Center, a brand new platform for
trademark prosecution.

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Now, although the system is
still in beta, we thought it

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would be worthwhile to take a
moment to showcase how your

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advanced TEAS drafting skills
translate to this new program.

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Today, we will demonstrate how
to use Trademark Center to file

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a trademark application with the
U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.

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Plus, we will provide context to
better explain why we even

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decided to retire TEAS in the
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Before I introduce our experts
though, allow me to share just a

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few announcements with you.

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Today's session is being
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You will have access to the
recording in about 3 weeks or so,

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by visiting our website,
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And let me tell you a little bit
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We apologize for this
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If you're joining via Teams, you
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At the conclusion of this live
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we're going to open up the
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You might notice that your chat
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off right now, but it will be
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with these announcements.

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The slides finally will be
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If you're looking for an e-mail
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And finally, we applied for CLE
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presentation.

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As soon as we as we receive
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CLE documentation to you and
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instructions on how you can
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If you have any additional
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process, e-mail us at 
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Now at this point, I have the
pleasure of introducing our

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expert presenters for today's
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Our first presenter is Matthew
Schwab.

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Attorney Schwab is a staff
attorney for the Electronic

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Filing and Public Web Services
in the Office of the Deputy

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Commissioner for Trademark
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He currently focuses on policy
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trademark filing.

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He also assists with the
development of new technologies

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for the office.

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Now, Matt joined the USPTO back
in 2015 as a trademark examining

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attorney.

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He's a member of the State Bar
of Illinois, and he received his

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Juris Doctor

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and Master of Public Policy
degrees from the University of

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Michigan.

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Our second expert is attorney
Kyle Ingram.

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Now, Kyle is my colleague.

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He works at the Trademarks
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USPTO.

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Prior to this position, Kyle
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attorney for six years.

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And before joining the USPTO,
Kyle worked for the U.S.

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Department of Agriculture and
the U.S. Department of Justice,

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Bureau of Prisons.

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Before attending law school,
Kyle served in the U.S. Air Force

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as a contracting officer.

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Kyle obtained his juris
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Oregon, his master's degree in
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Virginia Polytechnic Institute
and State University, That's

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Virginia Tech to everyone, and
his BA in economics from the

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University of Virginia.

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So at this time, I'm going to go
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to Matt Schwab. Attorney

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Schwab is going to go ahead now
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Thank you, and thank you, Mariessa.

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I'm sorry that I don't get to
give you an introduction since

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you've already been up, but I
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the introduction that I would
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Thanks for the introduction,
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And we want to go ahead and get
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the topics surrounding the
transition from TEAS to

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Trademark Center.

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So we're first going to spend 
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for CLE, amount of time on the
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And then we're going to go into
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some of our philosophies, our
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mechanisms we've used and that
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contacting us on as well.

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Also, we're going to see a
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Center including a few new
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tools that we haven't
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And finally, we'll end with a 
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So we anticipate having a decent
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this presentation to handle all
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So first we'll move into TEAS
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time span of the first prototype
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In 1991, we had the first
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see there's a seven-year gap
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actual business use of TEAS.

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So that's a similar gap to what
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Often times you'll go through a
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you arrive at something that
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presenting out to the public.

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It's been a similar journey for
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So the first prototype was in
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Finally, by 1997 and 1998, they
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So during that pilot project
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a year, TEAS accepted 228
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end of the pilot in August of
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For your reference, that is
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that we will receive during this
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It was fully operational by 1998
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The initial applications started
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It was of course optional at
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Everything was on paper before
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So this was a watershed moment
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or by, sorry, by November of 1998,
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new trademark applications, a
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that's been in effect for more
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We we have a few other items on
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transactions and those are the
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them and then affidavits and
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You see a three-year gap between
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The initial application started
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sequence and ended with
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You're going to see something
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As with any technology that is
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Currently, the technology is 
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maintain.

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interface, which are things that
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But a lot of it has to do with
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end, how the information gets
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gets passed through the system
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The technology for TEAS is
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does not give us room to grow,
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TRAM, you may have heard about
this or you may not have.

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It was the talk of the town in
IT circles inside the USPTO for

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We retired our mainframe
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that TEAS fed into.

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And now with that gone, we're
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of the things that people have
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years, but that we simply
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And this is the, the lack of
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had noted on surveys for the
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especially.

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That includes complaints that
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and to edit and to navigate.

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You have to go all the way to
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It does not automatically save.

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And then there's also a
possibility for the saves to not

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be usable later.

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Either they time out or
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There's also sort of no running
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fees or any sort of summary of
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putting into TEAS.

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So although TEAS has served us
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us well for the next few years,
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retired.

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This is going to be a piece meal
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So what that means is we're
starting with the initial

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application forms in Trademark
Center and they will be released

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and be usable side by side with
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for a period of time.

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They're available right now and
we encourage you to go to

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trademarkcenter.uspto.gov and
try out Trademark Center initial

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application forms.

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If you have a need to apply or
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you do it regularly, you're free
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what we've got to offer.

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You'll need MyUSPTO.gov account
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identity the same way that you
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And this system will sit
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months.

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And then the initial application
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become the initial application
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application forms will be
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along with the rest of TEAS. It's not
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75% of our filing volume is
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So that's still going to be
there and we're going to follow

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the same replacement path as we
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We will develop the new
capability at Trademark Center,

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release it to the public for a
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They'll operate side by side and
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comfortable, we'll transition
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But unfortunately for TEAS, it
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that we can give you all of the
things that you've been asking

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for for many years that we're
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TEAS.

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So it does have to be overhauled
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limitations.

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So Trademark Center development
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two years.

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It's really been including
prototypes going on for several

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years.

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But the, the actual day-to-day
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on for just over two years.

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We opened up last year a limited
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customers.

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We'll talk about that a little
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But one of the things that we
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seriously the feedback that we
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We designed this system with
feedback from attorneys, from

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paralegals, from entrepreneurs,
from small business owners.

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And we do this through surveys
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and now also through Trademark
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We do this through one-on-one
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through feedback from the
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button.

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we attempt to get a mix of
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of our customers needs.

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So we sort of have an 80/20 rule
at the USPTO for trademarks like

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many other business units.

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See, 80% of the filings that come
through our system are submitted

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by 20% of the customers and
those are typically our

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practitioners or or paralegals
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people who are doing this as
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The other 20% of the
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the users who come in to the
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And we get very different
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of feedback from, you know,
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that you can imagine.

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all of those.

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Our initial launch for Trademark
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people who have had 10 to 15
years of not having their needs

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met, people who don't
understand the system, who can't

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save, who can't navigate it, and
what we are currently doing.

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And you see, we rolled out a few
weeks ago with a practitioner

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focused update, but we're
creating more advanced features,

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more nuanced features in
Trademark Center that will help

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serve the needs of our daily
practitioners too, because they

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are so important also to what we
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So we do again encourage you to
go use Trademark Center and

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there are many ways to provide
feedback on that.

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You can fill out the 
Trademark Center survey between

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TEAS surveys and Trademark Center
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We've had more than 50,000
completed surveys so far over

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the years and they have all been
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We also have a dedicated
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helps us communicate and reach
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Many of you have spoken with
them or work with them or

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encountered them in some way, but
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trademarks, works with us on
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and get this feedback.

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There's a link on the Trademark
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There's a button in Trademark
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It's over on the right side,
could be called a button or some

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people call it a tag or a label.

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It's over on the right side of
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vertical orientation.

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And the number one way to get
the most feedback in is to sign

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up to be a customer experience
volunteer.

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You can sign up using the link
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Our customer experience
volunteers will all be stored in

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a list that is eligible for
contact depending on what you

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tell us about yourself.

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And that's the best way to get
contacted by us to get your

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input directly solicited.

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However, leaving comments
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it's also a very good way to
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We've never complained that we
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We, you know, do have limited
bandwidth.

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We don't have an excessively
large team working on Trademark

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Center.

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So there is a cadence and a
rhythm and a timeline for

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developing out our new
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We regret that we can't do it
all right away, but but we

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really do want to hear your
voice and I want to express that

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as much as I can.

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So how does Trademark Center
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There are many ways in which it
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I think most people are going to
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interface.

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The user interface is different.

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It's modern.

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It's consistent with our other
USPTO products.

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So Patent Center and the
emerging TTAB Center, which

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opens its public beta recently
as well, or "T-TAB" Center, if you

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call it

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"T-TAB" Center, but the Trademark
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patents also have new interfaces
that they've rolled out over the

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last few years.

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Ours is a similar design,
similar language.

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If you learn how to use one, you
should be able to use the

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others.

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Assignment Center is also an
example of a new product that's

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been rolled out following the
design language.

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They don't all work exactly the
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They have a similar look and
feel, similar navigation and

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functions.

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Trademark Center,

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we've added as an example
of feedback, we've added an

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application preview feature that
Kyle is going to show you later

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on during the demonstration.

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This allows you to essentially
get a preview of what the filing

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receipt would be.

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So you can send that out for
review and and download it and

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save a copy for your records
before you submit your

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application.

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We've also increased the
character limits in many fields.

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We have many systems at the
USPTO and we are working on

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consolidating them.

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But some of the limits that are
in a filing system are not

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because the filing system
couldn't do more, but because

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there's a system somewhere that
would be a bottleneck.

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So we don't want to.

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We want to make sure when we add
characters, every system

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throughout the pipeline can
accommodate those characters so

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that the registration and
maintenance records are all

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correct.

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So we have increased characters
where we can and we do.

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I won't call it "T-TAB" Center,
but we've increased

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character counts 
where we can, but in some

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instances they still will be
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There won't be a third address field
because that is not going to yet

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be consistent throughout the
entire pipeline.

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We're trying to make sure that
the information has a high level

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of integrity from the intake all
the way up to the output,

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wherever that may be.

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We've also improved the
readability of the filing

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receipts, larger fonts, USPTO
consistent color layout.

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They should still feel familiar
to most people though.

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There's a two column layout with
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So those are all improvements
without being I think really

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more more difficult to parse or
read.

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It should feel familiar if you
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And finally we have a summary
sidebar has a continuous fee

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calculation summary of the
application including the number

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of classes, your mark, other
fees that may be accruing.

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It shows you there on the side
so you can see you before you

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get to the end sort of what's
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the application be taking.

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So I think after that discussion
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what happened to make
Trademark Center and the

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expectation for you to try it
and to give us your feedback.

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I'll turn it over to Kyle, who
will now give us a demonstration

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of Trademark Center, including
the application and some of the new

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features.

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And then at the end, we'll
follow up with a Q&A.

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Excellent.

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Thank you very much, Matt.

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Again, my name is Kyle Ingram
and thank you, Matt for all that

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information.

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Very helpful, very informative.
Now this is the Trademark Center

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demonstration portion of the
presentation.

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But before we get into the
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going through the filing system,
I want to talk a little bit

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about some of the requirements
and the features, and the

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differences between TEAS and
Trademark Center.

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Many of you recognize this
screen right here.

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This is the create your My USPTO
account screen.

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But for those of you who are
experienced practitioners where

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your experience maybe lies
somewhere other than trademarks,

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or if you're an experienced
practitioner who's gone

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somewhere else for a little
while and is returning to

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trademarks, first of all,
welcome back.

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But in order to file a trademark
application, and this is

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regardless of whether you're
filing through TEAS or whether

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you're using the Trademark
Center filing functionality, you

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do have to have that MyUSPTO
account.

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And when you create a MyUSPTO
account, you're going to have to

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assign a role to that account.

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You can see the five roles up
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The first one, trademark owner,
that's going to be for pro se

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who are doing it on their own.

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The last one, interested party,
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proceedings.

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So the three that we're going to
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licensed attorney, Canadian
attorney and attorney support

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staff. You're going to want to
create a USPTO account for each

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individual who is going to be
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on applications.

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Having a community account
for several different people

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isn't really going to work.

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And it's important that you
select the correct role for your

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account because each role has
different privileges and

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abilities.

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So the U.S. licensed attorney and
the Canadian attorney, they can

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file all the documents and they
can share documents with

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sponsored attorney support
staff.

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And those are going to be those
draft applications that are in

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the Trademark Center docket. Now,

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the support staff role, they can
assist with filing documents.

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They can actually originate
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the application in their account
and then share that with an

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attorney, provided they are
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In order to share any documents
between accounts, the attorney

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role has to sponsor the support
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there's no limit to how many
individuals you can support,

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so don't think that if you're
the attorney, you have to pick

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one paralegal and that's the
only paralegal you get.

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No, you can,

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you can sponsor all of the
paralegals in your law firm and

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I would encourage you to do so
if you're going to be working

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with them.

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Similarly, a support staff
individual can be sponsored by a

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number of different attorneys so
that that way you can kind of

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build this web through which you
can send documents to be worked

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on.

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Now presently, I say presently
because it's a feature that we

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are working on, and I think Matt
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that because he's more involved
with the development team,

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but we're working on a sharing
functionality between attorneys.

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Right now, attorneys cannot
share with other attorneys, but

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we do recognize that that is a
feature and functionality that a

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lot of you will probably want.

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So it is something in the back
of our mind, it is something

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we're working on, trying to get
that figured out.

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And in order to sponsor an
individual, you can go to the

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link at the bottom of this slide,
if you have the slides.

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If not, you can go to the
Trademark Center landing page

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and that's the one with the
green button that says Trademark

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Center Beta that you click on in
order to access Trademark

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Center.

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Go down to identity verification
for trademark filers.

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Click on that, and then that will
bring you to this page right

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here.

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Click on the Trademark
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That's going to bring a window
up where you enter in the e-mail

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address of the MyUSPTO account
for that attorney's support

479
00:25:18,632 --> 00:25:19,120
staff.

480
00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:21,920
And you can again enter as many
as you need.

481
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:27,144
Once you hit OK, that's going to
sponsor those individuals and

482
00:25:27,144 --> 00:25:30,668
link them to the attorney
account so that draft

483
00:25:30,668 --> 00:25:35,072
applications and documents can
be shared between the two of

484
00:25:35,072 --> 00:25:35,440
them.

485
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:44,858
Now I want to take a moment to
draw the distinction between the

486
00:25:44,858 --> 00:25:48,774
Trademark Center docket, which
is the docket that's located

487
00:25:48,774 --> 00:25:52,757
within that Trademark Center
homepage and system, and that's

488
00:25:52,757 --> 00:25:55,760
where you're going to see draft
applications.

489
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,317
That's where you're going to see
all of the applications and

490
00:25:59,317 --> 00:26:02,564
registrations that you have
filed through Trademark Center.

491
00:26:02,564 --> 00:26:03,720
And Trademark docket 

492
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,840
that's within the MyUSPTO page.

493
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,897
The trademark docket in the 
MyUSPTO page, as you can see on

494
00:26:11,897 --> 00:26:16,634
the screen right here, and which
is accessible through the URL at

495
00:26:16,634 --> 00:26:20,940
the bottom of the slide, is
going to allow you to store and

496
00:26:20,940 --> 00:26:24,600
monitor up to 1000 applications
and registrations.

497
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,920
And what that does, here, I'll
show you what happens.

498
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,965
You click on "create a new
collection", name your

499
00:26:30,965 --> 00:26:31,640
collection.

500
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:36,909
You can add any notes to it. Put
all your application numbers,

501
00:26:36,909 --> 00:26:41,676
registration numbers, TTAB
proceeding numbers, what have

502
00:26:41,676 --> 00:26:42,680
you in here.

503
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,778
And then whenever there is a
status update with any of those,

504
00:26:47,778 --> 00:26:50,080
you will receive a notification.

505
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,806
And that's incredibly useful if,
for example, you've received a

506
00:26:54,806 --> 00:26:58,998
suspension letter in which there
is a prior filed application

507
00:26:58,998 --> 00:27:02,513
that was cited against your
client's mark as being a

508
00:27:02,513 --> 00:27:04,880
potential likelihood of
confusion.

509
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,536
You know, you'll get that
notification if, for example,

510
00:27:08,536 --> 00:27:10,000
that application abandons.

511
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,004
And then you can jump right in
and get the ball rolling on your

512
00:27:14,004 --> 00:27:17,445
client's application more
quickly than if you know you

513
00:27:17,445 --> 00:27:19,760
weren't getting those
notifications.

514
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,873
So I think that's an incredibly
useful tool, but I want to draw

515
00:27:23,873 --> 00:27:27,665
that distinction between the
trademark docket with your 

516
00:27:27,665 --> 00:27:31,200
MyUSPTO account and your docket
within Trademark Center.

517
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,480
So this is that landing page I
was talking about.

518
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,937
Some people call it the
homepage, I call it the landing

519
00:27:39,937 --> 00:27:40,160
page.

520
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,259
The important thing is when you
get here, you click the green

521
00:27:43,259 --> 00:27:45,520
button and that takes you into
Trademark Center.

522
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,400
I'll let you decide which one
you want to call it.

523
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,496
And then this is what the actual
homepage/landing page is

524
00:27:54,496 --> 00:27:57,760
going to look like when you're
in Trademark Center.

525
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,600
So you see the actions up there.

526
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,016
You can choose between new
application and what I was

527
00:28:03,016 --> 00:28:05,520
discussing earlier, the view
trademarks docket.

528
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,516
And that view trademarks docket
is going to take you to again,

529
00:28:09,516 --> 00:28:12,998
all of the draft applications
that you've created in here as

530
00:28:12,998 --> 00:28:16,366
well as all of the applications
that you've already filed,

531
00:28:16,366 --> 00:28:19,848
registrations that you have,
anything that's associated with

532
00:28:19,848 --> 00:28:23,045
this account. As long as you
filed it through Trademark

533
00:28:23,045 --> 00:28:26,698
Center, you'll be able to access
it through the view trademarks

534
00:28:26,698 --> 00:28:27,840
docket button there.

535
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:37,369
And we have some some nice
illustrations of the differences

536
00:28:37,369 --> 00:28:43,091
between TEAS and Trademark Center
in terms of visually what they

537
00:28:43,091 --> 00:28:44,000
look like.

538
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,960
Now some attorneys, I'll be
honest, have characterized

539
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,640
Trademarks Center when speaking
with us as an

540
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,160
oversimplification.

541
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,879
You know, as, well, there's the
USPTO favoring pro se applicants

542
00:28:58,879 --> 00:28:59,920
over attorneys.

543
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,556
And I just want to reiterate
what Matt was saying and that

544
00:29:03,556 --> 00:29:04,600
this isn't the case.

545
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:10,720
TEAS from a technological
standpoint, it was obsolete.

546
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,523
We were running out of ways to
fix it to keep it going into the

547
00:29:14,523 --> 00:29:16,560
future, and it just, it had to
go.

548
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,385
And as we've rolled out
Trademark Center, we had to

549
00:29:21,385 --> 00:29:25,240
start with a very foundational
function to it.

550
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,086
You know, we couldn't have all
the bells and whistles on it out

551
00:29:28,086 --> 00:29:28,560
of the gate.

552
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,811
We need to make sure that
foundation was secure before we

553
00:29:32,811 --> 00:29:36,951
started building all of these
additional features onto it that

554
00:29:36,951 --> 00:29:38,200
practitioners want.

555
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,630
And one other thing to note,
every year we have a whole new

556
00:29:43,630 --> 00:29:47,906
crop of law students who
graduate from law school and

557
00:29:47,906 --> 00:29:52,261
they pass the bar and a good
chunk of them go into the

558
00:29:52,261 --> 00:29:54,320
practice of trademark law.

559
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,989
Now, for those new attorneys, if
we can provide them with a

560
00:29:58,989 --> 00:30:02,719
filing system that's clean,
that's easy to use, that's

561
00:30:02,719 --> 00:30:07,059
intuitive, that's cloud based,
then they don't have to spend as

562
00:30:07,059 --> 00:30:11,196
much time learning the nuance
and intricacies of outdated IT

563
00:30:11,196 --> 00:30:15,130
systems and they can get right
to work on the practice of

564
00:30:15,130 --> 00:30:16,080
trademark law.

565
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,659
So, you know, I recognize that,
you know, it always stinks

566
00:30:19,659 --> 00:30:21,480
having to learn something new.

567
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,423
Hopefully when we go through the
demonstration, a lot of you will

568
00:30:25,423 --> 00:30:28,826
be surprised by how easy it is
to file an application through

569
00:30:28,826 --> 00:30:29,760
Trademark Center.

570
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,688
I get that, you know, we never
want to spend time learning

571
00:30:34,688 --> 00:30:39,247
something new, but I think in
the long run, this is going to

572
00:30:39,247 --> 00:30:43,730
be incredibly beneficial to
practitioners, to the USPTO, to

573
00:30:43,730 --> 00:30:46,720
applicants, and to everyone all
around.

574
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,693
So you can see right here with
Trademark Center, it's a lot

575
00:30:51,693 --> 00:30:53,960
easier to know where to start.

576
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,422
You know, you have that 
home page I showed you where you

577
00:30:58,422 --> 00:31:02,640
can click on new application or
my trademarks docket right away.

578
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,120
It's very apparent how you get
the thing started.

579
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,987
Once you're in the system
itself, you can see the

580
00:31:10,987 --> 00:31:15,336
comparison between TEAS on the
left and Trademark Center on the

581
00:31:15,336 --> 00:31:19,054
right and just how clean that
user interface is with

582
00:31:19,054 --> 00:31:23,193
Trademarks Center that doesn't
really have kind of the the

583
00:31:23,193 --> 00:31:26,280
cluttered text that you see with
with TEAS.

584
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,148
It's very apparent the
information that's being

585
00:31:29,148 --> 00:31:31,120
requested that you have to
provide.

586
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,000
You can see status bars on the
top on the left.

587
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,385
And once we get into the
demonstration, you'll see how

588
00:31:38,385 --> 00:31:41,360
that summary on the right hand
side actually works.

589
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,891
And now finally, regardless of
how you feel about TEAS versus

590
00:31:46,891 --> 00:31:50,183
Trademark Center, here's a
feature that everyone can

591
00:31:50,183 --> 00:31:53,786
benefit from and everyone's
going to like is that you can

592
00:31:53,786 --> 00:31:57,637
save drafts at any time in the
platform as you go through the

593
00:31:57,637 --> 00:31:58,879
application process.

594
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:04,443
So it has an auto save every 60
seconds as well as a save draft

595
00:32:04,443 --> 00:32:05,000
button.

596
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,896
And when you hit save or when it
does that auto save, it actually

597
00:32:09,896 --> 00:32:12,440
saves your application to the
cloud.

598
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,240
You don't have to download a
file.

599
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,106
You don't have to wait until the
very end of the application to

600
00:32:18,106 --> 00:32:18,520
save it.

601
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,280
You can save it as you're going
along.

602
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,120
And these stay in the system for
up to a year.

603
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,943
So if you're in the middle of
filing an application and

604
00:32:29,943 --> 00:32:33,733
something else comes up, you
have to leave for a little while

605
00:32:33,733 --> 00:32:37,645
for, you know, 30 minutes, for
four hours, for three weeks, for

606
00:32:37,645 --> 00:32:38,440
three months.

607
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,700
If you come back to that
application, it's going to be

608
00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:44,720
ready for you in your docket,
right where you left it.

609
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,836
So with all of that out of the
way, let's go to the actual

610
00:32:49,836 --> 00:32:50,680
demonstration.

611
00:33:01,010 --> 00:33:04,666
Those of you who don't have the
links bookmarked, I'm going to

612
00:33:04,666 --> 00:33:08,090
show you how to access Trademark
Center from our homepage.

613
00:33:08,930 --> 00:33:12,730
Hover over Trademarks, click on
Apply Online.

614
00:33:13,370 --> 00:33:14,210
There you go.

615
00:33:14,890 --> 00:33:18,010
Click the green button and you
should be in.

616
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:24,361
Now I'm already logged in, so it
did not prompt me for my MyUSPTO

617
00:33:24,361 --> 00:33:28,469
account, but it will probably
ask you for your login

618
00:33:28,469 --> 00:33:29,400
information.

619
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:35,454
And once you're logged in, this
is that homepage/landing

620
00:33:35,454 --> 00:33:37,880
page that I was talking about.

621
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,840
So let's go ahead and start a
new application.

622
00:33:48,290 --> 00:33:51,527
First thing you get is five
bullet points here with

623
00:33:51,527 --> 00:33:54,640
information about the
application process itself.

624
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,450
As experienced practitioners,
you probably know all of this

625
00:33:58,450 --> 00:34:01,652
already, but you know, if you
want to take an extra 20 seconds

626
00:34:01,652 --> 00:34:04,702
to make sure that yes, this is
indeed something you already

627
00:34:04,702 --> 00:34:07,600
know and not new information, by
all means check it out.

628
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,650
Once you're comfortable with
those five bullet points of

629
00:34:11,650 --> 00:34:15,429
information, check the box down
there, hit agree and you are

630
00:34:15,429 --> 00:34:17,040
starting your application.

631
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,574
Like I said, the first things
that you notice is how much

632
00:34:21,574 --> 00:34:23,320
cleaner the user interface is.

633
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,943
Up top you have a status bar
that's going to let you know and

634
00:34:27,943 --> 00:34:31,416
give you that visual
representation of where you are

635
00:34:31,416 --> 00:34:32,400
in the process.

636
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:37,211
Over on the left hand side, you
see that same status bar in a

637
00:34:37,211 --> 00:34:38,720
drop down menu format.

638
00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:43,302
And as we'll see later on, one
of the benefits to Trademark

639
00:34:43,302 --> 00:34:47,365
Center is that if you need to go
back in the application or

640
00:34:47,365 --> 00:34:51,225
forward in the application,
you're able to just click on

641
00:34:51,225 --> 00:34:55,153
this information here and it
will immediately take you to

642
00:34:55,153 --> 00:34:57,319
that portion of the application.

643
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,719
In my personal opinion, I think
that's a little bit better than

644
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,948
TEAS where you had to click back,
back, back, back, back, back,

645
00:35:04,948 --> 00:35:07,971
back and then once you made the
change or the fix that you

646
00:35:07,971 --> 00:35:11,302
wanted to make, you know, click
OK and keep clicking that to get

647
00:35:11,302 --> 00:35:12,840
back to where you were before.

648
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,071
You know, if you're someone that
loves clicking the mouse, maybe

649
00:35:17,071 --> 00:35:19,809
this is a downgrade, but
otherwise if you prefer

650
00:35:19,809 --> 00:35:23,162
expediency and ease of use, you
know, I like what Trademark

651
00:35:23,162 --> 00:35:24,280
Center has to offer.

652
00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:29,593
So for this demonstration, we're
going to be doing a TEAS Plus

653
00:35:29,593 --> 00:35:30,320
application.

654
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:36,000
So we are going to hit continue
down here.

655
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,040
You see the auto save function
right here.

656
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,267
If I want to save my draft, you
know, I get a little nervous

657
00:35:44,267 --> 00:35:48,440
when I'm inputting important
information into the system.

658
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,960
So I'm one of those folks
that'll fill out like 2 fields

659
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,656
and then go click save draft and
then I'll fill out two more

660
00:35:53,656 --> 00:35:55,160
fields and then click save
draft.

661
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,120
If that's how you want to do it,
that's fine.

662
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,040
The auto save works pretty well
as well.

663
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,973
And just a note, when you're
saving these drafts, they are

664
00:36:04,973 --> 00:36:07,520
going up here to drafts and
docket.

665
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,633
So if you in the middle of your
application have to run and

666
00:36:11,633 --> 00:36:14,688
you're going to pick it up
later, you'll find that

667
00:36:14,688 --> 00:36:17,982
application in drafts and
dockets and you can continue

668
00:36:17,982 --> 00:36:19,120
where you left off.

669
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,480
So let's hit continue.

670
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:28,808
And now if you are, if your
MyUSPTO account has that

671
00:36:28,808 --> 00:36:33,456
attorney user role, you will see
this button here that says

672
00:36:33,456 --> 00:36:36,400
import my info from my USPTO
account.

673
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,804
If you click on that, it auto
populates all of this

674
00:36:41,804 --> 00:36:45,720
information down to attorney
e-mail address.

675
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:52,306
It's a, it's a convenience if
you're just filling out one

676
00:36:52,306 --> 00:36:58,298
application, if you have several
applications that you're filling

677
00:36:58,298 --> 00:37:03,655
out for a client, saving that
that time can be a real time

678
00:37:03,655 --> 00:37:04,200
saver.

679
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,582
If you're thinking 3, 4, 5, 6 or more
applications and every time you

680
00:37:08,582 --> 00:37:12,668
get to the attorney information,
you fill it out with one click,

681
00:37:12,668 --> 00:37:14,240
that's a real time saver.

682
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:21,828
Now, I trust that everyone here
is just a great person,

683
00:37:21,828 --> 00:37:24,600
incredibly trustworthy.

684
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:30,120
However, I am logged into my
personal MyUSPTO account and

685
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,720
not my work account.

686
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,733
So if I were to push this button
and show you how it works, it

687
00:37:35,733 --> 00:37:39,250
would give everyone attending
this webinar my personal home

688
00:37:39,250 --> 00:37:39,720
address.

689
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,364
As much as I love you guys and
trust you, I think I'm going to

690
00:37:43,364 --> 00:37:46,154
go ahead and manually fill that
out for purposes of this

691
00:37:46,154 --> 00:37:46,840
demonstration.

692
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,672
Now, if you have the attorney
support role, if you're the

693
00:37:52,672 --> 00:37:56,320
paralegal, you are not going to
have this functionality.

694
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:01,952
So you will have to fill this
out in much the same way I'm

695
00:38:01,952 --> 00:38:03,480
doing right now.

696
00:38:18,910 --> 00:38:21,064
And notice you do have to
provide an attorney e-mail

697
00:38:21,064 --> 00:38:21,390
address.

698
00:38:21,550 --> 00:38:23,310
You do not have to provide the
phone number.

699
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,200
You can add the docket number
down here,

700
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:37,370
if you have a docket number.
You notice a red asterisk means that you

701
00:38:37,370 --> 00:38:39,640
have to provide the information.

702
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,060
So you have to check this
confirming that you are an

703
00:38:44,060 --> 00:38:47,120
active member and good standing
of a bar.

704
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:54,673
Fill out your bar information
here and if there are other

705
00:38:54,673 --> 00:38:59,378
appointed attorneys for the
particular application, you

706
00:38:59,378 --> 00:39:03,160
would enter in their information
right here.

707
00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:09,646
You hit continue and this is
where we identify the trademark

708
00:39:09,646 --> 00:39:10,080
owner.

709
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,440
You'll notice that there are
these pop up windows right here.

710
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,360
That is a feature that's more
for a pro se applicant.

711
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,210
So when they hit this particular
portion of the application, we

712
00:39:21,210 --> 00:39:25,000
inform them a little bit of
the significance of what they're

713
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,609
filling out, what information
they need to provide us with,

714
00:39:28,609 --> 00:39:31,918
and we'll provide a link to
helpful information on our

715
00:39:31,918 --> 00:39:32,400
website.

716
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,680
You all probably don't need
that.

717
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,480
You can click Hide Explanation
and that will make that go away.

718
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:45,407
Right now we don't have any type
of setting or feature that hides

719
00:39:45,407 --> 00:39:48,320
the explanations as a default.

720
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,624
You know, that might be
something that we're looking

721
00:39:50,624 --> 00:39:50,800
into.

722
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,328
If you're the attorney, maybe
you don't want to see those

723
00:39:54,328 --> 00:39:56,520
little pop up windows every time
you're filing.

724
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,280
Let's fill out some owner
information.

725
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:02,560
We'll say that

726
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:06,960
the owner is an LLC.

727
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,080
The owner here is going to be
Kyle Kyleson.

728
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:21,032
He has organized his LLC in
Virginia, and down here this is

729
00:40:21,032 --> 00:40:28,279
where you're going to see that
mailing address versus domicile

730
00:40:28,279 --> 00:40:29,200
address.

731
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,478
And if you recall, we have to
have a mailing address for the

732
00:40:33,478 --> 00:40:35,520
public record for the
application.

733
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,720
So that's information that has
to be provided.

734
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,200
However, that can just be a
mailing address such as a PO box.

735
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:47,374
We do need the principal address
where a person resides or where

736
00:40:47,374 --> 00:40:50,974
the business is conducted for
individuals, for small

737
00:40:50,974 --> 00:40:55,049
businesses that are typically
run out of the home, a lot of

738
00:40:55,049 --> 00:40:59,532
times that is that personal home
address and that's not something

739
00:40:59,532 --> 00:41:03,200
that the client wants out there
on the public record.

740
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,000
So we're just going to do a P.O.
box here.

741
00:41:14,340 --> 00:41:15,140
That's countries.

742
00:41:15,980 --> 00:41:22,623
The rest is up at the top
states, so you can check this

743
00:41:22,623 --> 00:41:30,216
box if the domicile address is
the same as the mailing address,

744
00:41:30,216 --> 00:41:37,453
you know, obviously if the the
client has a brick and mortar

745
00:41:37,453 --> 00:41:42,080
store downtown somewhere, that's
fine.

746
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,720
That address can go in the
public record.

747
00:41:49,810 --> 00:41:53,573
For this one, the LLC is
operating out of their home, so

748
00:41:53,573 --> 00:41:56,610
we're going to put the domicile
address here.

749
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:14,650
We need the owner e-mail address
and we're good to move on.

750
00:42:16,770 --> 00:42:20,180
So you'll see, even though I
have not been hitting save

751
00:42:20,180 --> 00:42:23,530
draft, we're still getting auto
save every 60 seconds.

752
00:42:23,530 --> 00:42:27,050
So we got an auto save while I
was filling all of that out.

753
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,369
You look here, check the
correspondence information, You

754
00:42:34,369 --> 00:42:34,920
see that,

755
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:39,786
yes, indeed, that's going to the
the attorney address. And over

756
00:42:39,786 --> 00:42:44,267
here, this is where you can
select courtesy copies if you

757
00:42:44,267 --> 00:42:45,040
want them.

758
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,664
I know some clients out there,
they hire you and they want to

759
00:42:48,664 --> 00:42:49,600
be done with it.

760
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,518
They said, listen, here's what I
want done, here's the check, go

761
00:42:53,518 --> 00:42:53,880
do it.

762
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,200
Don't even talk to me until it's
done.

763
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,868
There's other clients who really
want to be involved in that

764
00:42:59,868 --> 00:43:03,640
process and ask you the
questions and learn as they go.

765
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,331
So if you've got one of those
hands-on clients who wants to

766
00:43:07,331 --> 00:43:10,939
receive the office actions, the
examiner's amendments, so on and

767
00:43:10,939 --> 00:43:14,160
so forth, at the same time you
do, you can put that here.

768
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:21,600
So we're going to do 
handsonclient@domain.com.

769
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,804
So now that you've entered in
that, the courtesy copy will be

770
00:43:26,804 --> 00:43:28,080
sent to them as well.

771
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,360
And this is where we select the
actual mark that we want to

772
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,280
register and hide that
explanation

773
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,201
if they're getting annoying.  For this
demonstration, we're just going

774
00:43:39,201 --> 00:43:40,640
to do a standard character mark.

775
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,760
You can see stylized wording and
designs down here.

776
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,449
If you have a different format
of the mark, you would click

777
00:43:49,449 --> 00:43:50,280
this button here.

778
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,160
This is where we enter in the
text for the mark.

779
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:07,970
It asks if we need any
translations.

780
00:44:09,930 --> 00:44:10,250
No.

781
00:44:12,770 --> 00:44:14,890
Is there a name or likeness
issue with this?

782
00:44:15,690 --> 00:44:20,242
Click no and then we get to
selecting the appropriate filing

783
00:44:20,242 --> 00:44:20,690
basis.

784
00:44:22,170 --> 00:44:27,099
Just to show you what the what
the system can do, I'm going to

785
00:44:27,099 --> 00:44:29,760
go down to multiple filing
bases.

786
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,960
Obviously if you just have a 1(a)
or just have a 1(b), that's easy.

787
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:35,960
You click one of those.

788
00:44:41,180 --> 00:44:44,428
And now that we've said we are
going to be using multiple

789
00:44:44,428 --> 00:44:47,956
filing bases, we have to select
which filing bases we're going

790
00:44:47,956 --> 00:44:50,140
to be assigning to goods and
services.

791
00:44:50,140 --> 00:44:56,897
We're going to do 1(a) and 1(b) for
this demonstration, and now it's

792
00:44:56,897 --> 00:45:01,160
time to identify the goods and
services.

793
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:07,069
So you can see right here, like
we had in TEAS, the ID manual is

794
00:45:07,069 --> 00:45:10,000
baked into the filing system
itself.

795
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:15,771
So if, for example, we want to
look up shirts, I was very, very

796
00:45:15,771 --> 00:45:20,586
careful when I typed that out
because in the dry run I forgot

797
00:45:20,586 --> 00:45:25,480
to type the "R" and that made for
some very interesting results.

798
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:28,400
There you go.

799
00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:31,880
So this is going to bring up the
ID manual.

800
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:37,349
If you want a larger view of it,
you just click detailed view,

801
00:45:37,349 --> 00:45:42,496
and that's going to bring up a
larger window with more fields

802
00:45:42,496 --> 00:45:44,240
that you can look at.

803
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:51,424
If you want to select the goods
in this window, you'll click the

804
00:45:51,424 --> 00:45:54,160
box and then add selection.

805
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,523
And if you look over there on
the right, you can see that

806
00:45:59,523 --> 00:46:01,720
we've got some stuff added to
our summary.

807
00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:04,320
You can see the mark itself.

808
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,880
You can see the goods and
services there.

809
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:14,092
Class 25, we've added shirts,
and you see the total cost for

810
00:46:14,092 --> 00:46:14,520
this.

811
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:21,440
So that is we have one class of
a TEAS plus application, $250.

812
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,400
Let's just add pants.

813
00:46:29,240 --> 00:46:32,392
And now if you're fine with a
smaller search window, you just

814
00:46:32,392 --> 00:46:35,240
click on the add button right
here and look over there.

815
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,000
It adds pants to the the summary
tab.

816
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,320
Now let's add backpacks.

817
00:46:46,530 --> 00:46:46,970
There we go.

818
00:46:46,970 --> 00:46:51,793
You see that we added Class 18,
added that extra $250 in the

819
00:46:51,793 --> 00:46:56,774
running total down here, you'll
see that total cost updated to

820
00:46:56,774 --> 00:46:57,169
$500.

821
00:46:57,720 --> 00:46:59,160
So we're going to move on.

822
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,588
For purposes of this
demonstration, we're just going

823
00:47:01,588 --> 00:47:04,200
to be using this mark with
shirts, pants, and backpacks.

824
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:11,174
If you need to edit the goods
and services, if you added stuff

825
00:47:11,174 --> 00:47:15,254
that you didn't want to, you can
click one of the trash cans down

826
00:47:15,254 --> 00:47:18,160
here to remove it, or you can
click over here.

827
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,768
And that'll give you the same
options for removing goods and

828
00:47:21,768 --> 00:47:24,858
services that you've added
inadvertently or ones that you

829
00:47:24,858 --> 00:47:28,106
just don't necessarily want to
have in the application right

830
00:47:28,106 --> 00:47:28,319
now.

831
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:29,680
That's how you get rid of them.

832
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,666
And this is where we assign the
filing bases to the goods and

833
00:47:36,666 --> 00:47:38,680
services that we have selected.

834
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,541
We're going to say some of my
goods and services have

835
00:47:41,541 --> 00:47:42,760
different filing bases.

836
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:48,565
The Class 18, we're going to
make those our 1(b) and our Class

837
00:47:48,565 --> 00:47:51,200
25, we're going to make those
1(a).

838
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,718
Now, if you want to assign
filing bases to goods within a

839
00:47:57,718 --> 00:48:01,200
class, you hit that little drop
down right there.

840
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,272
If you just select this box
right here, it's going to apply

841
00:48:05,272 --> 00:48:08,960
that filing basis to all of your
goods or services in that class.

842
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,763
So drop down if you want to
divide within the class, just

843
00:48:14,763 --> 00:48:18,754
click the box there if you want
it to apply to that entire

844
00:48:18,754 --> 00:48:19,160
class.

845
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:26,743
So next up, it's going to ask us
for the specimen for the class

846
00:48:26,743 --> 00:48:31,040
25 goods because that is what we
said were our 1(a) goods.

847
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:33,960
We'll add the specimen.

848
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:41,341
Our mark is T.MARKEY, So I'm
going to add this right here as

849
00:48:41,341 --> 00:48:42,680
our specimen.

850
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,901
So you see, you have T.MARKEY
on the collar of the shirt, on

851
00:48:46,901 --> 00:48:48,800
the hang tag and over the
breast.

852
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:53,412
All three are acceptable places
to have the applied for mark as

853
00:48:53,412 --> 00:48:54,920
a specimen for shirts.

854
00:49:01,630 --> 00:49:04,150
Click on the file that you want
to upload as your specimen.

855
00:49:06,150 --> 00:49:09,602
So you see here, obviously a
description of the specimen is

856
00:49:09,602 --> 00:49:10,350
not required.

857
00:49:10,870 --> 00:49:11,910
Sometimes it's helpful.

858
00:49:11,910 --> 00:49:14,565
In this particular instance,
it's obvious that the goods are

859
00:49:14,565 --> 00:49:14,870
shirts.

860
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,720
The mark is clearly on there, so
it wouldn't need a description.

861
00:49:19,720 --> 00:49:24,268
If the specimen isn't totally
clear, maybe you want to throw

862
00:49:24,268 --> 00:49:28,966
that in there so you could just
say mark on hang tag for shirts

863
00:49:28,966 --> 00:49:30,160
just to be safe.

864
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,000
Date of first use anywhere.

865
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:38,280
Just going to say 2020.

866
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,884
You don't need the link or the
date of access because it's not

867
00:49:46,884 --> 00:49:48,080
a web page specimen.

868
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,511
Click on the goods that the
specimen applies to, click Save

869
00:49:53,511 --> 00:49:55,200
specimen, and there you go.

870
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,040
You now have your specimen for
the 1(a) goods.

871
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:00,600
Hit continue.

872
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:05,520
It'll ask you a lot of questions
about claiming ownership of

873
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:09,560
active prior registrations,
disclaimers, so on and so forth.

874
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,760
Some of these are the TEAS Plus
questions.

875
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,043
Some of them are just in there
to make sure that you haven't

876
00:50:15,043 --> 00:50:15,880
missed something.

877
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,440
Obviously that's more for the
pro se applicants.

878
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:26,038
Then you get to this point where
you can review and edit the

879
00:50:26,038 --> 00:50:26,920
application.

880
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,240
So scroll through everything
here.

881
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,075
Make sure your owner
information, mailing address,

882
00:50:34,075 --> 00:50:36,800
domicile address, make sure
that's good to go.

883
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,400
Click on the trademark details.

884
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:41,280
There you go.

885
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:46,640
Standard character T.MARKEY
your goods and services 1(a) goods

886
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,320
and services, shirts and pants.

887
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:50,080
There we go.

888
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,320
1(b) backpacks. Supporting
information.

889
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,291
You can hit that drop down
window that'll pull up the JPEG

890
00:50:59,291 --> 00:51:01,600
of the specimen that you
provided.

891
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:06,226
If everything looks good, you
can hit continue. If there is an

892
00:51:06,226 --> 00:51:09,409
error, and in retrospect, I
probably should have

893
00:51:09,409 --> 00:51:13,436
intentionally done something
wrong just so you could see what

894
00:51:13,436 --> 00:51:14,799
the error looks like.

895
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:22,051
All of these green checks over
here, one of them will be a

896
00:51:22,051 --> 00:51:25,160
circle, a red circle with a red exclamation point

897
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:25,520
in it.

898
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,523
And that's going to be your way
of knowing that the error is

899
00:51:29,523 --> 00:51:30,360
located there.

900
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,080
So let's just say it was in
correspondence information.

901
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,360
So if that's where the error
was, I can click on that.

902
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:43,035
I could fix whatever it is
that's here, and then once I fix

903
00:51:43,035 --> 00:51:48,111
that, go back to review and sign, so
there you go, that's the little

904
00:51:48,111 --> 00:51:49,240
error message.

905
00:51:49,240 --> 00:51:52,848
If you see that in the body of
any of those other categories

906
00:51:52,848 --> 00:51:56,280
above, that means that something
there needs to be fixed.

907
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,983
So we're going to go to the
declaration and signature

908
00:52:00,983 --> 00:52:06,034
section. And you have three
different ways of signing the

909
00:52:06,034 --> 00:52:07,080
application.

910
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,560
The easiest, obviously, is
sign directly.

911
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:18,692
You just scroll through here,
click on all of this, add your

912
00:52:18,692 --> 00:52:25,917
signature, the date will auto
populate, put your name in

913
00:52:25,917 --> 00:52:29,720
there, then add your position.

914
00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:31,600
Boom.

915
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,160
That's nice and easy, but that's
not how we always sign those.

916
00:52:37,720 --> 00:52:42,768
You can also upload your signed
declaration and what that's

917
00:52:42,768 --> 00:52:47,648
going to do is if you scroll
down, you're going to put in

918
00:52:47,648 --> 00:52:52,360
your name and the position and
generate signature form.

919
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:57,091
What that'll do is that'll
generate a PDF that you can sign

920
00:52:57,091 --> 00:53:01,480
with a pen and then you can scan
it and then upload it that way.

921
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,750
If you have that preference for
hand signing the document,

922
00:53:05,750 --> 00:53:09,733
signing it directly within the
filing system accomplishes the

923
00:53:09,733 --> 00:53:10,440
same thing,

924
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,267
but you know, there are folks
that are old school, they prefer

925
00:53:13,267 --> 00:53:15,960
to put that pen on paper, put
the signature there that way.

926
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,000
And if that's you, well, we have
that option available.

927
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:25,455
You also can send the
application to someone else to

928
00:53:25,455 --> 00:53:30,993
sign and for that you'll put
your name here and then enter

929
00:53:30,993 --> 00:53:36,720
the e-mail address where you
would like to receive the link.

930
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:42,547
For this, you will want to put
in your own address so that that

931
00:53:42,547 --> 00:53:47,774
link gets sent to you and then
you will forward that on to your

932
00:53:47,774 --> 00:53:49,000
client to sign.

933
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:54,333
And one important feature on
this page is the Download

934
00:53:54,333 --> 00:53:55,720
Application Preview.

935
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:01,302
So you'll recall in TEAS there
was view input table and the

936
00:54:01,302 --> 00:54:02,120
text form.

937
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,697
So that's been consolidated here
in the Download Application

938
00:54:05,697 --> 00:54:06,120
Preview.

939
00:54:07,240 --> 00:54:10,840
Click on that and see if that
will pull up for me.

940
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:13,120
There we go.

941
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:24,280
And right here you have a much
clearer and more concise version

942
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,880
of everything that was in that
filing system.

943
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,560
So it's nice and easy to read.

944
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,680
You can see the trademark
details up here.

945
00:54:33,240 --> 00:54:36,785
Owner information here, goods
and services, specimen

946
00:54:36,785 --> 00:54:39,240
information, additional
statements.

947
00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:43,240
We have the attorney
information, so on and so forth.

948
00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:46,922
And this is it's a great
document to download and save

949
00:54:46,922 --> 00:54:51,141
and send along to the client so
that they can review it before

950
00:54:51,141 --> 00:54:55,359
they sign or you know, maybe you
want it for your own records.

951
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,360
It's there for that purpose as
well.

952
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:06,560
So I am, just for the purpose of
finishing this,

953
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:16,786
we're going to sign it directly
and then we will get into

954
00:55:16,786 --> 00:55:19,760
sharing draft applications.

955
00:55:27,950 --> 00:55:29,550
Perfect, there we go.

956
00:55:29,550 --> 00:55:31,670
Now we're at the pay and submit
page.

957
00:55:31,670 --> 00:55:35,820
This is where you would pay the
fee and submit the application,

958
00:55:35,820 --> 00:55:38,350
but that's not what we want to
do yet.

959
00:55:38,750 --> 00:55:43,133
Now we want to send this around
for review, maybe get a little

960
00:55:43,133 --> 00:55:47,098
bit more work done and to do
that we click on drafts and

961
00:55:47,098 --> 00:55:48,560
docket right up here.

962
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:55,115
So you see this is that
application that we just

963
00:55:55,115 --> 00:55:59,520
completed, T.MARKEY, owner name
Kyle Kyleson.

964
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:06,798
And if we want to send this to
one of those sponsored attorney

965
00:56:06,798 --> 00:56:09,160
staff, we click on send.

966
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,680
You noticed you get this warning
which says the feature allows another

967
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,040
user to edit your draft.

968
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,040
You won't be able to track their
changes or undo them.

969
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,796
So what that means is that
you're not going to be able to

970
00:56:21,796 --> 00:56:25,089
track the changes or undo all of
the changes with a single

971
00:56:25,089 --> 00:56:25,480
button.

972
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,308
Obviously when you get this
application back, you can do

973
00:56:29,308 --> 00:56:31,000
whatever you want with it.

974
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,673
You can certainly undo any
changes, but it's not as easy as

975
00:56:34,673 --> 00:56:35,680
flipping a switch.

976
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,160
So let's just say yes.

977
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,640
You know, I would like to share
this with my paralegal.

978
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,040
It brings up this window.

979
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,480
You select who you want to send
the draft to.

980
00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:53,200
I have Test User Two and I send
this to them.

981
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,680
You'll notice two things when
you send the draft application.

982
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:03,149
You get this notice up here that
says you successfully sent the

983
00:57:03,149 --> 00:57:07,270
draft and down here remove and
view which is how you would

984
00:57:07,270 --> 00:57:11,599
delete the application or view
the application to go back in it

985
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:18,952
are grayed out and the reason
for that is only one user can

986
00:57:18,952 --> 00:57:22,920
access the application at a
time.

987
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:28,031
So you can only have one person
in the system making changes at

988
00:57:28,031 --> 00:57:28,560
a time.

989
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:34,393
If you decide, oh shoot, I need
that application back, you have

990
00:57:34,393 --> 00:57:35,360
two options.

991
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,837
So you can either contact the
person that you sent it to, ask

992
00:57:39,837 --> 00:57:43,994
them to send it back, or if you
need it back immediately, you

993
00:57:43,994 --> 00:57:45,000
can hit recall.

994
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,028
Now, if you hit recall, that's
going to pull it back

995
00:57:49,028 --> 00:57:49,760
immediately.

996
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:54,016
And if that other person is
still working on it, there's not. . .

997
00:57:54,016 --> 00:57:57,850
like, any changes that they make
after you hit recall aren't

998
00:57:57,850 --> 00:57:59,000
going to be saved.

999
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,557
So you're kind of pulling the
rug out from under them a little

1000
00:58:01,557 --> 00:58:01,720
bit.

1001
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,858
If they're in the middle of
working on it again, you can

1002
00:58:04,858 --> 00:58:08,328
decide if it's necessary to do
that or if you just want to ask

1003
00:58:08,328 --> 00:58:09,760
them to send it back here.

1004
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:16,370
We'll hit the recall draft and
now it's back in our docket and

1005
00:58:16,370 --> 00:58:18,640
we can do all of the changes.

1006
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:23,763
Now, like I said before, both
the attorney role and the

1007
00:58:23,763 --> 00:58:28,200
attorney support staff role can
originate an application.

1008
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:32,214
So if you are the attorney's
support staff role, you can do

1009
00:58:32,214 --> 00:58:36,495
everything we just did in terms
of creating the application and

1010
00:58:36,495 --> 00:58:39,640
then sending it on to the
attorney for review.

1011
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:46,093
Just wanted to clarify that in
case you're thinking that only

1012
00:58:46,093 --> 00:58:49,680
the attorneys can start an
application.  Now,

1013
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,960
I think with that, we wrapped up
the demonstration portion.

1014
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,817
We talked a little bit about the
requirements to get into

1015
00:58:57,817 --> 00:58:59,680
Trademark Center and use it.

1016
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:04,305
We talked about the features and
functionality, how it differs

1017
00:59:04,305 --> 00:59:08,810
from TEAS, how it represents an
improvement upon TEAS, where we're

1018
00:59:08,810 --> 00:59:12,457
going with some of these
functions and then how to

1019
00:59:12,457 --> 00:59:16,461
actually get into the system and
get it done to file an

1020
00:59:16,461 --> 00:59:17,320
application.

1021
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,320
So with that, I think I assume
we have questions.

1022
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,840
I'm going to go ahead and kick
it back to Mariessa.

1023
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,720
Fantastic, Kyle, thank you so
much.

1024
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:31,290
Oh, yes, we have a lot of
questions and I wanted to

1025
00:59:31,290 --> 00:59:32,160
get started.

1026
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:33,440
I'm going to have.

1027
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,080
So we've got both of our experts
here.

1028
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:36,000
Wonderful.

1029
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,240
Let's start off with a question.

1030
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:43,840
I think this is from Charles
who's asking, will,

1031
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:47,826
let me see, will Trademark
Center enable functionality for

1032
00:59:47,826 --> 00:59:51,732
practitioners to auto load
fields to streamline repetitive

1033
00:59:51,732 --> 00:59:55,969
filing tasks like before we had
this .obj file as an option that

1034
00:59:55,969 --> 00:59:59,280
allows you to kind of create a
template of sorts.

1035
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:03,122
Is that a feature that's going
to be part of this new Trademark

1036
01:00:03,122 --> 01:00:06,388
Center that will this new system
that we're using to file

1037
01:00:06,388 --> 01:00:07,120
applications?

1038
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:07,880
What do you think, Matt?

1039
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:10,880
So, good question.

1040
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:17,370
Lots of people now know the
extension .obj and talk about .obj

1041
01:00:17,370 --> 01:00:19,600
files as though it's a child.

1042
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,357
It's been a very important part
of the TEAS filing process for

1043
01:00:22,357 --> 01:00:22,840
many years.

1044
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,240
Is the only way to save and send
these things around?

1045
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,486
We are are not going to continue
the .obj download process, so

1046
01:00:29,486 --> 01:00:31,680
there won't be a downloadable
version.

1047
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:36,593
However, there are ways as we
just seen to share the drafts

1048
01:00:36,593 --> 01:00:39,985
online and we're also planning
on rolling out other

1049
01:00:39,985 --> 01:00:44,160
enhancements such as being able
to make a quick copy of a file.

1050
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,936
And so, you know, our initial
thinking on that is that it'll

1051
01:00:47,936 --> 01:00:51,246
copy all the information out
except for the mark information,

1052
01:00:51,246 --> 01:00:54,663
because typically with the use
case of Co-pends, we'd expect the

1053
01:00:54,663 --> 01:00:57,973
mark to change and maybe the
other information would stay the

1054
01:00:57,973 --> 01:00:58,240
same.

1055
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:03,523
But we're still in the in the
research and design phases of

1056
01:01:03,523 --> 01:01:03,840
that.

1057
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,608
And we're actually talking to
some of you about that and how

1058
01:01:06,608 --> 01:01:07,880
that would work out for you.

1059
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,720
So that is feature to look
forward to coming in the in the

1060
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:15,756
near future a little bit later
this year, but there won't

1061
01:01:15,756 --> 01:01:17,840
be any more return to the .objs.

1062
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:22,880
Ok, we're bidding a fond
farewell to the .obj files.

1063
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:26,154
Ok, either love them or hate
them, but we do remember

1064
01:01:26,154 --> 01:01:28,840
them well. OK, So what about,
here's another question.

1065
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,565
We had a couple of questions
talking about comparing the

1066
01:01:32,565 --> 01:01:36,422
filing functionality of the
Trademark Center to the Patent

1067
01:01:36,422 --> 01:01:36,880
Center.

1068
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:38,320
So here's a question from
Dorothy.

1069
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:42,280
Is there a way way to file a
test trademark application and

1070
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:46,571
trademark center similar to the
test site that folks use

1071
01:01:46,571 --> 01:01:47,760
for patent center?

1072
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,960
This might be another question
for format.

1073
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:53,120
So not yet.

1074
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,516
We do have a prototype of that,
but we haven't released it yet,

1075
01:01:56,516 --> 01:01:58,920
but that is something that we're
also looking at.

1076
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:00,880
OK All right.

1077
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,000
Well, Kyle, we got to get you
into this conversation, right?

1078
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:04,920
Really.

1079
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,474
So some folks are curious now,
we they love the fact that

1080
01:02:08,474 --> 01:02:12,117
you're doing a demo today, but
when is this system going to be

1081
01:02:12,117 --> 01:02:14,720
mandatory for filing trademark
applications?

1082
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,600
Sorry, I went real blurry there
for a second.

1083
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:18,000
Oh, did you?

1084
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,160
Yeah, I think I'm back.

1085
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:20,760
OK.

1086
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:25,000
So right now it is optional.

1087
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:29,920
It is in beta, obviously we think
it's in great working condition.

1088
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,241
We've had a lot of people
successfully file through

1089
01:02:32,241 --> 01:02:33,000
Trademark Center.

1090
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,240
But yes, it is optional right
now.

1091
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:40,558
The plan is to as we build upon
that functionality and as this

1092
01:02:40,558 --> 01:02:44,753
becomes capable of doing
everything that we can do with

1093
01:02:44,753 --> 01:02:47,600
filing applications, we phase
out TEAS.

1094
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:53,320
So we're aiming for beginning of
the year, next year.

1095
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:57,492
And Matt jump in, if that's
wrong, we don't have a specific

1096
01:02:57,492 --> 01:02:57,840
date.

1097
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,738
We just we want to make sure
that everything's good to go for

1098
01:03:01,738 --> 01:03:02,400
the rollout.

1099
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,280
We don't want to do it
prematurely.

1100
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,834
But right now that's our target
is beginning of the year next

1101
01:03:06,834 --> 01:03:07,040
year.

1102
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:07,880
OK.

1103
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:09,360
Matt, you want to add anything
to that?

1104
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:10,920
No, that's right.

1105
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:14,439
If you've been able to find the
trademark center web page, So if

1106
01:03:14,439 --> 01:03:18,012
you go to TEAS, the apply online
page, you'll see a banner at the

1107
01:03:18,012 --> 01:03:21,261
top that gives you some links,
has a green trademark center

1108
01:03:21,261 --> 01:03:21,639
button.

1109
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,568
There's also a slightly harder
to find link to the trademark

1110
01:03:24,568 --> 01:03:27,448
center web page, but that has a
lot of information on there

1111
01:03:27,448 --> 01:03:29,560
including our target date of
early January.

1112
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:34,488
So that is the that is the TEAS
retirement for the initial

1113
01:03:34,488 --> 01:03:38,920
application forms only responses
request for reconsideration.

1114
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,107
The CAR forms, which is a
slightly different issue we'll

1115
01:03:42,107 --> 01:03:43,240
address when we get to that.

1116
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:47,160
All those other forms will still
be there and available for use.

1117
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:51,117
But the initial application form
retirement plan is early

1118
01:03:51,117 --> 01:03:52,480
January.

1119
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:52,760
OK.

1120
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,838
So still a little bit more time
for you to get acclimated to the

1121
01:03:55,838 --> 01:03:56,360
new system.

1122
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,268
We encourage you to to continue
using it and sending us your

1123
01:03:59,268 --> 01:04:02,320
feedback so we can continue to
make improvements to the system.

1124
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,390
OK, here's a question from
Hayes, who's curious about the

1125
01:04:06,390 --> 01:04:09,520
USPTO, the myuspto.gov accounts
that are needed.

1126
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:13,377
The question is, do I need a
separate USPTO account for the

1127
01:04:13,377 --> 01:04:16,785
Patent Center and then another
separate USPTO account for the

1128
01:04:16,785 --> 01:04:17,720
Trademark Center?

1129
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,120
What do we think, Matt?

1130
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:22,120
You want to take that one as
well?

1131
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:22,920
I can grab that.

1132
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:24,880
I see a lot of these types of
questions.

1133
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,040
So let me wrap up a few of them.

1134
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:28,160
Oh, please do.

1135
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:33,148
The uspto.gov account is going
to work across the board for all

1136
01:04:33,148 --> 01:04:34,240
USPTO systems.

1137
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,973
Now each system might require
you to specify a role, for

1138
01:04:37,973 --> 01:04:41,382
example, TEAS and Trademark
Center if you don't have one

1139
01:04:41,382 --> 01:04:41,960
currently.

1140
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:44,920
For trademarks, we'll ask you,
are you a trademark attorney?

1141
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:46,080
Are you a trademark owner?

1142
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:47,520
What is your role?

1143
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:51,422
And the reason we ask the role
is because different people have

1144
01:04:51,422 --> 01:04:54,057
different needs, different
obligations and different

1145
01:04:54,057 --> 01:04:55,400
capabilities in the system.

1146
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,626
And we want to make sure that
we're matching those up with

1147
01:04:58,626 --> 01:04:59,800
with the right people.

1148
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,480
So it'll ask you to specify your
role.

1149
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,276
And once you specified it,
that's going to be good for

1150
01:05:06,276 --> 01:05:09,502
trademark systems and also for
TTAB systems in terms of the

1151
01:05:09,502 --> 01:05:12,621
roles between patents and
trademarks, they don't match up

1152
01:05:12,621 --> 01:05:13,320
one-to-one.

1153
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,244
So each system will have a
different interface for you

1154
01:05:16,244 --> 01:05:16,520
there.

1155
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,431
And it could also be true of
other systems like fee payment

1156
01:05:19,431 --> 01:05:20,800
doesn't currently have roles.

1157
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,360
If it does, they would be
implemented separately.

1158
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:27,191
So for for trademarks things,
once you have a uspto.gov

1159
01:05:27,191 --> 01:05:30,680
account and you have a filing
role, you should be good to go.

1160
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:35,040
Trademark Center, TEAS, TTAB Center,
all of those things.

1161
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:40,800
Sponsorship also between patent
side and trademark side.

1162
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:42,400
Again, the rules are a little
different.

1163
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:46,960
So we can't do a blanket, a
blanket sponsorship policy.

1164
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:51,427
So if we do at some point
overcome some policy hurdles,

1165
01:05:51,427 --> 01:05:54,440
then technologically we may
explore that too.

1166
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,960
But for now those are separate
sponsorship paths.

1167
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,282
So if you are a trademark
attorney and you're verified,

1168
01:06:00,282 --> 01:06:03,526
you can go into patents and also
be considered to be verified,

1169
01:06:03,526 --> 01:06:06,511
but you'll need to tell them
you're a patent attorney and

1170
01:06:06,511 --> 01:06:08,880
sponsor patent paralegal
separately in there.

1171
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,720
OK, Matt, wow, you knocked out
four of my questions.

1172
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:17,880
OK, let me let me get myself to
talk.

1173
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:18,880
We got a lot of questions.

1174
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:20,400
OK, All right.

1175
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,880
Well, thank you very much for
doing that.

1176
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,800
Here's one I think you did not
answer.

1177
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:27,120
How about this?

1178
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:31,123
Can we use free text, you know,
this ability to, to draft your

1179
01:06:31,123 --> 01:06:34,661
own text maybe when we're
talking about the ID portion of

1180
01:06:34,661 --> 01:06:38,200
filing in the Trademark Center,
can we type free text in?

1181
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,377
We didn't see that option in the
in the demonstration that Kyle

1182
01:06:41,377 --> 01:06:41,760
gave us.

1183
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:43,320
Kyle, you want to answer that
one?

1184
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:43,960
That might be one.

1185
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:44,600
Absolutely.

1186
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:48,371
So the reason that you didn't
see that in the demonstration

1187
01:06:48,371 --> 01:06:52,457
that I gave was because we just
did the TEAS Plus application and

1188
01:06:52,457 --> 01:06:56,040
in TEAS Plus you have to select the
IDs from our ID manual.

1189
01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:00,265
If instead on that very first
page before you enter anything

1190
01:07:00,265 --> 01:07:04,320
at all, you hit TEAS standard, then
when we got to that page where

1191
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,488
you're putting in the
identification of goods and

1192
01:07:07,488 --> 01:07:11,163
services, you would have that
ability to type in the free

1193
01:07:11,163 --> 01:07:11,480
text.

1194
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:13,520
OK, perfect.

1195
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:16,604
And and also just clarifying
that what we're talking about is

1196
01:07:16,604 --> 01:07:19,440
Trademark Center is going to be
a giant platform for us.

1197
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,126
We're going to be using it to do
all sorts of things, one of

1198
01:07:22,126 --> 01:07:24,280
which is filing, which is what
we're demonstrating.

1199
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,861
And so we're just really talking
about this filing component of

1200
01:07:27,861 --> 01:07:28,760
Trademark Center.

1201
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,360
OK, fantastic.

1202
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:31,240
Thank you very much.

1203
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:36,636
Now, what about this is from
Jonathan inquiring about like if

1204
01:07:36,636 --> 01:07:40,699
he already had some applications
that were filed in their docket

1205
01:07:40,699 --> 01:07:44,200
previously, is that something
that they can that he can

1206
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:48,014
transfer now to the Trademark
Center docket so that he could

1207
01:07:48,014 --> 01:07:49,639
see them all in one place?

1208
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:51,080
Is that automatic?

1209
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,680
So, no, and I'll explain a
little more about that.

1210
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:58,008
But right now what we do is we
automatically, if you apply in

1211
01:07:58,008 --> 01:08:00,360
trademark Center carries over to
your docket.

1212
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,943
It's also connected to the
accounts that have securely been

1213
01:08:03,943 --> 01:08:04,880
in touch with it.

1214
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:09,627
And we don't have our full
account security policy updates

1215
01:08:09,627 --> 01:08:12,720
rolled out and we won't for a
little while.

1216
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:19,386
But what this will do is it will
ensure that the right people who

1217
01:08:19,386 --> 01:08:23,023
have proper authority to
incoming and file without

1218
01:08:23,023 --> 01:08:27,160
locking out people who haven't
been in the system before.

1219
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:31,662
But so those who you will, you
will have an advantage down the

1220
01:08:31,662 --> 01:08:34,454
road by starting your
application Trademark Center,

1221
01:08:34,454 --> 01:08:37,407
because we collect more
information about the accounts

1222
01:08:37,407 --> 01:08:40,360
associated with it to allow them
access in the future.

1223
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:45,312
That's not true for these
applications and they won't be

1224
01:08:45,312 --> 01:08:49,927
automatically put into that
docket because TEAS doesn't know

1225
01:08:49,927 --> 01:08:50,760
exactly what.

1226
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,860
It does not track, you know, the
the connection between the

1227
01:08:53,860 --> 01:08:56,960
filing and then storing it with
the person who's filing it.

1228
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:58,240
Trademark Center does.

1229
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,942
So for that reason, if you are
interested in building your

1230
01:09:01,942 --> 01:09:05,110
docket, it's good to start now
in Trademark Center and do

1231
01:09:05,110 --> 01:09:07,240
applications sooner rather than
later.

1232
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:11,181
Now, will you be able to use the
docket to do work down the road

1233
01:09:11,181 --> 01:09:13,640
and other filings that we
haven't yet developed?

1234
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:14,440
Yes, you will.

1235
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:18,243
So for example, if you know you
need to, if there's a TEAS

1236
01:09:18,243 --> 01:09:21,787
application you've already made
and it's suspended and you know

1237
01:09:21,787 --> 01:09:24,944
in several months when the
response form is available in

1238
01:09:24,944 --> 01:09:27,160
Trademark Center, you want to
use that.

1239
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:31,075
You'll be able to use Trademark
Center to respond, but it's

1240
01:09:31,075 --> 01:09:34,448
not going to automatically
populate your docket for you

1241
01:09:34,448 --> 01:09:37,280
like it does with the with the
current system.

1242
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:39,400
OK, OK.

1243
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:40,400
Well that's good to know.

1244
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:42,720
Additional information.

1245
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:46,662
Now what about our friends who
have work dockets of over like

1246
01:09:46,662 --> 01:09:47,760
1000 applications?

1247
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:49,160
We got a question from S.T.

1248
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:53,326
Shore inquiring about how long
will Trademark Center retain the

1249
01:09:53,326 --> 01:09:55,800
application registration
information.

1250
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:59,278
So if you're filing at least
1000 new applications per 

1251
01:09:59,278 --> 01:10:02,329
user quarterly, will the
application still be accessible

1252
01:10:02,329 --> 01:10:03,400
in Trademark Center?

1253
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:06,635
Is there is there a cap now on
the number of dockets that that

1254
01:10:06,635 --> 01:10:07,560
you can have open?

1255
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:14,617
Yes, as Kyle mentioned for the
drafts those right now, our

1256
01:10:14,617 --> 01:10:18,240
current plan is to have drafts
be available for a year.

1257
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:22,124
We also plan on having the
drafts be updatable through a

1258
01:10:22,124 --> 01:10:23,080
validation check.

1259
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:26,498
Remember, if you use the .obj
files where they would break every

1260
01:10:26,498 --> 01:10:29,748
so often, they would break with
their ID dates, ID manual

1261
01:10:29,748 --> 01:10:32,718
updates, they would break when
there were changes to

1262
01:10:32,718 --> 01:10:35,800
technology, they would break
with TEAS version updates.

1263
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,003
We no longer need to break them
because we can revalidate the

1264
01:10:39,003 --> 01:10:40,360
information in the safe draft.

1265
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,455
So the current plan is to save
those drafts for a year unless

1266
01:10:43,455 --> 01:10:45,000
the customer wants to delete
them.

1267
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,360
If they delete them, they're,
they're not retained anywhere.

1268
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:49,080
They're just deleted.

1269
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:53,238
Now for registrations or things
that you might have in your

1270
01:10:53,238 --> 01:10:56,756
docket applications that are
pending, there is no plan that

1271
01:10:56,756 --> 01:10:59,160
there would be a time cut off
for those.

1272
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:03,147
So 20 years down the road when
me and Trademark Center are

1273
01:11:03,147 --> 01:11:06,958
retiring, you'll have a very
lengthy docket with everything

1274
01:11:06,958 --> 01:11:08,800
you've done in that 20 years.

1275
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,829
There's you'll, you'll be able
to filter, sort time gate, do

1276
01:11:11,829 --> 01:11:14,760
other things to cut down on the
number of things in there.

1277
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:19,134
But there's not a, there's not a
time cut off plan for, for our

1278
01:11:19,134 --> 01:11:20,760
future docket enhancements.

1279
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:27,472
OK, well, let's talk a little
bit about some of these user

1280
01:11:27,472 --> 01:11:28,000
roles.

1281
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:28,560
OK.

1282
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:33,911
You know, we had a couple of
questions in the in the chat on

1283
01:11:33,911 --> 01:11:38,240
Webex from paralegals who
are curious about their roles.

1284
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,520
So why are user roles required?

1285
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,386
Do they have different
functionality or something like

1286
01:11:43,386 --> 01:11:43,600
that?

1287
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,160
What's, what's the purpose of
them?

1288
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:47,920
Yeah, yeah.

1289
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:51,517
User roles are required because
they do have different

1290
01:11:51,517 --> 01:11:55,462
functionality and they reflect
the different posture of what

1291
01:11:55,462 --> 01:11:57,920
that party needs to do for the
USPTO.

1292
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,876
So for example, attorneys are
allowed to sponsor support staff

1293
01:12:01,876 --> 01:12:05,298
and the support staff have to be
when they work, they have to be

1294
01:12:05,298 --> 01:12:07,720
working on to the direction of
that attorney.

1295
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:09,680
So there's a different
relationship there.

1296
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:14,143
So they they will have different
capabilities in the filing

1297
01:12:14,143 --> 01:12:14,520
system.

1298
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:18,588
Owners are generally going to be
filing on their own behalf, so

1299
01:12:18,588 --> 01:12:21,480
they don't have any to
participate in sponsorship.

1300
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:25,720
And for now we don't have the
ability to share among owners.

1301
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,506
We'll evaluate if that's
something that needs to be

1302
01:12:28,506 --> 01:12:28,960
rolled out.

1303
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:32,818
But typically I'm going to, I'll
grab an E-signature line of

1304
01:12:32,818 --> 01:12:34,400
questions that I've seen.

1305
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:38,824
We have a variety of electronic
signature options that are

1306
01:12:38,824 --> 01:12:42,582
relatively easy to do and they
don't require the customer who's

1307
01:12:42,582 --> 01:12:43,640
signing to log in.

1308
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,749
They can confirm the information
and enter their signature only

1309
01:12:47,749 --> 01:12:51,098
and then return it to the person
who's filling it out for

1310
01:12:51,098 --> 01:12:51,359
them.

1311
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:55,543
So in most cases that's going to
be, you know, the owner setting,

1312
01:12:55,543 --> 01:12:58,759
for example, might be paralegal
working a small company, does

1313
01:12:58,759 --> 01:13:01,871
not work under the supervision
of an attorney, but is asked

1314
01:13:01,871 --> 01:13:04,880
directly by the owner of the
company to file a trademark.

1315
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:07,320
That person is entitled to do
so.

1316
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,375
On that case, though, they would
choose the owner role because

1317
01:13:10,375 --> 01:13:12,950
they aren't going to be able to
achieve sponsorship and they're

1318
01:13:12,950 --> 01:13:14,440
filing as an extension of the
owner.

1319
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:16,640
They can send it to the owner
for signature.

1320
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:20,444
The owner doesn't need to have
an ID-verified role, or even a

1321
01:13:20,444 --> 01:13:21,520
uspto.gov account.

1322
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:25,552
The owner can simply sign in a
variety of ways and then return

1323
01:13:25,552 --> 01:13:27,920
it to that paralegal for
submission.

1324
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,040
So that's one example of how
that that might work out.

1325
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:34,661
But in order to comply with our
rules, we want to make sure that

1326
01:13:34,661 --> 01:13:36,200
people are choosing the right
roles.

1327
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:40,515
We've had to cancel and suspend
and take action on many, many

1328
01:13:40,515 --> 01:13:44,515
applications and registrations
simply because they they weren't

1329
01:13:44,515 --> 01:13:48,015
filed using the following the
correct rules and weren't

1330
01:13:48,015 --> 01:13:48,640
validated.

1331
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:53,360
And we do, we want to avoid that
to the extent possible. Correct.

1332
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:57,881
And folks will notice that Jay,
our fantastic producer today,

1333
01:13:57,881 --> 01:14:02,397
it's adding into the chat a link
to our website showing where you

1334
01:14:02,397 --> 01:14:06,228
can learn more about your
trademark user roles, some of

1335
01:14:06,228 --> 01:14:10,538
the roles and responsibilities
right at that link to scroll on

1336
01:14:10,538 --> 01:14:14,916
down and there's some drop downs
for you to navigate further to

1337
01:14:14,916 --> 01:14:16,080
get some answers.

1338
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:18,240
So speaking about user roles,
here's another one.

1339
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:25,346
Can a U.S. licensed attorney direct
her paralegal to sign her name

1340
01:14:25,346 --> 01:14:27,160
to an application?

1341
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:28,720
Now, Kyle, I think you got this
one.

1342
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:29,920
What do you think?

1343
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:34,991
Can a U.S. license attorney direct
her paralegal to sign her name

1344
01:14:34,991 --> 01:14:36,440
to an application?

1345
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,328
I'm going to go with no, I'm
going to go with that attorney

1346
01:14:39,328 --> 01:14:41,480
needs to be signing the
application themselves.

1347
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:42,560
That's right.

1348
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,560
Signatures are non-delegable.

1349
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,760
And so we just want to confirm
that everyone knows that.

1350
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:50,640
So check that user role link to
get some more information.

1351
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:55,411
And Matt, you mentioned
something about like, let's say

1352
01:14:55,411 --> 01:14:59,818
that I, you know, completed that I  
set up my.uspto.gov

1353
01:14:59,818 --> 01:15:00,880
verification.

1354
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,632
I did all the, went through the
whole process, but I selected

1355
01:15:03,632 --> 01:15:04,520
the wrong user role.

1356
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:06,120
Can I change that?

1357
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:07,840
Can I go back?

1358
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:08,640
What do I do?

1359
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:13,596
You can't change it on your own,
but you can contact TEAS@uspto.gov

1360
01:15:13,596 --> 01:15:17,000
and ask for that
account to be reset.

1361
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,560
Reset your role and your ID
verification.

1362
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:23,996
You'll need to link it back up
with your ID.me account if

1363
01:15:23,996 --> 01:15:27,106
you've done that before, or
resubmit a paper verification if

1364
01:15:27,106 --> 01:15:29,400
you link it back up with your ID.me
account.

1365
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,538
All you have to do is log into
your ID.me account, confirm that

1366
01:15:32,538 --> 01:15:34,200
you're you, and then you're good
to go.

1367
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,632
Otherwise, you do need to
reverify if you choose the paper

1368
01:15:37,632 --> 01:15:37,920
route.

1369
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:40,800
But yes, you can change those
roles.

1370
01:15:41,440 --> 01:15:43,898
And we're also planning on
making it a little easier for

1371
01:15:43,898 --> 01:15:46,400
people to see when they're
logged in to check the role in

1372
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,040
know if if they've got the right
one.

1373
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,660
Now, there are some shortcuts to
knowing if you have the right

1374
01:15:50,660 --> 01:15:50,840
role.

1375
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:54,433
If you know what the sponsorship
tool is, it's at

1376
01:15:54,433 --> 01:15:56,240
teas.uspto.gov/sponsorship.

1377
01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,962
You can go there and it will
tell you if you are an attorney

1378
01:15:59,962 --> 01:16:01,800
or if you were a sponsor support
staff.

1379
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:05,690
It will also tell you if you are
generally if you are an owner

1380
01:16:05,690 --> 01:16:08,160
because you won't be able to
access it.

1381
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:12,546
But we're also working at at
putting in, you know what, you

1382
01:16:12,546 --> 01:16:14,280
guys have been so great today.

1383
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:16,920
Do you are the comments still
on?

1384
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:19,760
Yes, yes.

1385
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:22,560
You guys want a little sneak
preview?

1386
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:24,480
You want to see something
that's. . .

1387
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:27,200
Oh, absolutely.

1388
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:28,600
Are we OK with that?

1389
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:32,040
Yes, That's why we're here, to
get the scoop.

1390
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:35,320
So this is dangerous.

1391
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:39,953
This is a test environment and
this is a live webinar, so

1392
01:16:39,953 --> 01:16:41,400
anything can happen.

1393
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:46,001
First thing, you'll notice that
our test environment, we've got

1394
01:16:46,001 --> 01:16:49,700
a slightly different approach to
the layout of the trademarks at

1395
01:16:49,700 --> 01:16:50,439
our homepage.

1396
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:53,160
Where are you sharing that?

1397
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:53,720
Let me interrupt.

1398
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:55,280
I was trying to, hold on.

1399
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:55,880
We don't see it.

1400
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:56,640
We don't see it.

1401
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:57,320
There we go.

1402
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:58,680
All right, there we go.

1403
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:03,360
OK, Teams requires so many fewer
buttons to do this.

1404
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:08,083
All right, so now you're seeing
a slightly different view than

1405
01:17:08,083 --> 01:17:09,000
we saw before.

1406
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:11,000
This is called the card view.

1407
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:14,264
We'll be adding cards in as we
consolidate functions from other

1408
01:17:14,264 --> 01:17:16,560
parts of trademarks in the
Trademark Center.

1409
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:20,845
You can see here we're focusing
on what you can do and not what

1410
01:17:20,845 --> 01:17:24,320
is the filing system, what is
the document retrieval system.

1411
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,073
So it's more, you know, what's
the search system, but what,

1412
01:17:27,073 --> 01:17:27,960
what can you do, right?

1413
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,400
So if you want to search, this
will take you to trademark search.

1414
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,800
You want to view your docket, it
will take you to Trademark

1415
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:33,920
Center, but the docket view.

1416
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:36,600
So we'll be adding more cards in
the future.

1417
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:40,885
This is this is our first, first
proposed update coming next

1418
01:17:40,885 --> 01:17:41,280
month.

1419
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,840
You also see that we'll put our
notifications front and center.

1420
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:47,759
These include new features that
are coming and a link to the

1421
01:17:47,759 --> 01:17:48,640
page describing them.

1422
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,942
Announcements of the system has
to go down or there will be some

1423
01:17:51,942 --> 01:17:53,640
change to it and then release
notes.

1424
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:56,520
So when we update things, you
know what changed and when.

1425
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,200
Here we also have recent drafts.

1426
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:03,923
These allow me to look at the
last three drafts that I created

1427
01:18:03,923 --> 01:18:05,560
and jump right back to them.

1428
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:09,453
So I don't even need to go
through through the, you know,

1429
01:18:09,453 --> 01:18:11,360
view my docket reply to
register.

1430
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,637
I can click right on it and, and
jump back into the middle of the

1431
01:18:14,637 --> 01:18:15,920
application where I left off.

1432
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:19,937
And then finally, these are are
similar to what we've got

1433
01:18:19,937 --> 01:18:21,600
currently at the bottom.

1434
01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:27,919
Other helpful links in this
I'll, I'll go to the application

1435
01:18:27,919 --> 01:18:33,701
actually and well, I'll jump
into one that I know is mostly

1436
01:18:33,701 --> 01:18:39,677
complete so we don't have to
review that. You'll see here that

1437
01:18:39,677 --> 01:18:44,399
I've got a new settings option
at the top right.

1438
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,465
And these settings here are
something that we're also

1439
01:18:47,465 --> 01:18:47,960
working on.

1440
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:52,684
But this, this goes to one of
the things that we talked about,

1441
01:18:52,684 --> 01:18:56,270
some feedback that we got in
order to scroll through the

1442
01:18:56,270 --> 01:18:59,920
application more quickly and
avoid some of the help text.

1443
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:03,572
You know, here you can see, you
can hide the explanation, but

1444
01:19:03,572 --> 01:19:06,720
that's a manual choice, takes
time and it's not persistent.

1445
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:11,547
You can go to my settings, you
can shrink it down so you still

1446
01:19:11,547 --> 01:19:15,102
can keep your place in the
application and know where the

1447
01:19:15,102 --> 01:19:16,880
information is right there.

1448
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:21,111
It is shrunk down a little bit,
or I suspect a popular one among

1449
01:19:21,111 --> 01:19:23,520
practitioners do not show that
text.

1450
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,826
That'll be a persistent setting
that goes through this

1451
01:19:26,826 --> 01:19:27,400
application.

1452
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:31,920
So all the, all the top
explanations would be hidden.

1453
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:37,587
There will be other view updates
and then also the drafts and

1454
01:19:37,587 --> 01:19:38,200
docket.

1455
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:42,663
You will gain the ability to
make duplicates or make copies

1456
01:19:42,663 --> 01:19:46,040
of your filings and then name
them, give them names.

1457
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:49,402
So name your drafts and also
take notes that you can share

1458
01:19:49,402 --> 01:19:51,160
with others when you share the
file.

1459
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:54,360
All right, I've tempted the
fates long enough.

1460
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:55,920
I will stop sharing.

1461
01:19:58,360 --> 01:19:59,600
That was really helpful.

1462
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:02,400
It's always great to get a sneak
peek at what's coming.

1463
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:05,040
So thank you for sharing that
information.

1464
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:09,720
Here's a question I'm going to
toss this one to Kyle.

1465
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:13,649
If you populate attorney
information from your

1466
01:20:13,649 --> 01:20:16,760
myuspto.gov account, can you
edit the form?

1467
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:21,403
For example, MyUSPTO, your
account uses your work e-mail,

1468
01:20:21,403 --> 01:20:25,000
but for applications you want to
use a different e-mail.

1469
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:26,120
How do you do that?

1470
01:20:26,480 --> 01:20:27,080
What are you doing?

1471
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:31,072
Yes, that is a great question
and I didn't want to give anyone

1472
01:20:31,072 --> 01:20:31,880
the wrong idea.

1473
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:35,471
So if you, it's not like if you
hit that populate the

1474
01:20:35,471 --> 01:20:39,462
information or import my info
from MyUSPTO account, that's

1475
01:20:39,462 --> 01:20:43,519
set in stone and locked in and
you can't change any of that.

1476
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,600
You absolutely can change
that.

1477
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:50,687
So, you know, if everything is
correct except the e-mail

1478
01:20:50,687 --> 01:20:55,204
address, well, you can hit that,
import my info and it'll fill

1479
01:20:55,204 --> 01:20:56,280
out everything.

1480
01:20:56,280 --> 01:21:01,345
And then you just go down and
you manually change that e-mail

1481
01:21:01,345 --> 01:21:05,920
address, which kind of led to a
couple other questions.

1482
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:08,846
You know, I apologize, I could
not keep track of all the

1483
01:21:08,846 --> 01:21:09,360
questions.

1484
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:13,465
They would pop up for like half
a second as a little blue box in

1485
01:21:13,465 --> 01:21:15,360
the corner of my presentation.

1486
01:21:16,440 --> 01:21:18,960
So if I'm not getting to your
question, I apologize.

1487
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:20,520
I'm not trying to ignore you.

1488
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:24,705
It was just difficult to see
everything that was coming

1489
01:21:24,705 --> 01:21:28,370
through. In terms of
functionality of this importing

1490
01:21:28,370 --> 01:21:31,400
the information from the MyUSPTO
account.

1491
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:39,678
I don't know if or when we might
enable paralegals and support

1492
01:21:39,678 --> 01:21:42,440
staff to do that as well.

1493
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:46,054
And again, I don't want to get
in front of Matt because he

1494
01:21:46,054 --> 01:21:49,059
works a lot more closely with the
developers and he'll know better

1495
01:21:49,059 --> 01:21:49,679
than I do it.

1496
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:54,888
It does kind of seem to me like
if you are the paralegal at the

1497
01:21:54,888 --> 01:21:59,624
law firm and you're importing
your my USPTO information, most

1498
01:21:59,624 --> 01:22:04,360
of that will be sort of close to
what the attorneys would be.

1499
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:07,440
And you could just change the
attorney name, maybe even the

1500
01:22:07,440 --> 01:22:07,800
e-mail.

1501
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,840
But again, I don't know what our
timeline looks like for that.

1502
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:14,472
If we're testing functionality,
if there's something wrong with

1503
01:22:14,472 --> 01:22:16,800
implementing that type of
functionality.

1504
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:19,640
I'll kick it to Matt after this
question.

1505
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:23,560
And then I also wanted to answer
one other question.

1506
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:27,237
I know Mariessa did not ask this,
but it was a little one that I

1507
01:22:27,237 --> 01:22:27,880
saw pop up.

1508
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:33,440
Someone had mentioned, hey, why
does Kyle get two accounts?

1509
01:22:33,440 --> 01:22:34,320
What's going on?

1510
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:38,208
The first account, the one that
I'm in, my personal one was one

1511
01:22:38,208 --> 01:22:40,080
that I created a little while
back.

1512
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:45,456
And then there is another
account that's associated with

1513
01:22:45,456 --> 01:22:50,779
me as a USPTO employee and that
auto logs into all of

1514
01:22:50,779 --> 01:22:55,680
the USPTO systems as soon as I
log into my work computer.

1515
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,782
Truth be told, it's a pretty
useless account in terms of

1516
01:22:59,782 --> 01:23:03,766
doing anything in these systems,
but it is sort of an account

1517
01:23:03,766 --> 01:23:06,080
that exists out there in the
ether.

1518
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:08,120
So that's why I have two
accounts.

1519
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:11,757
I don't know about someone else
on the outside getting two

1520
01:23:11,757 --> 01:23:13,480
accounts or not. Understood.

1521
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:16,499
We're running, we're sort of
closing down on our time, but

1522
01:23:16,499 --> 01:23:19,448
I'm I don't want to leave my
friends out who have sent some

1523
01:23:19,448 --> 01:23:20,480
questions via e-mail.

1524
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:22,640
Here's one from Clint, and Matt,

1525
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,109
I'm just going to try to think
this in if you're filing

1526
01:23:25,109 --> 01:23:27,710
multiple applications where
everything is the same but the

1527
01:23:27,710 --> 01:23:28,240
mark, right?

1528
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:32,480
We know we talked about .obj
files before .obj files and being

1529
01:23:32,480 --> 01:23:34,760
able to use them as somewhat of
a template.

1530
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:39,160
Are you able to copy a prior
application in this new 

1531
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:41,880
trademark Center and just update
the mark?

1532
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:45,768
Is there any way to use your
draft applications in that way

1533
01:23:45,768 --> 01:23:47,000
like to reuse them?

1534
01:23:48,440 --> 01:23:53,002
So I mentioned this I think a
little bit earlier, but we are

1535
01:23:53,002 --> 01:23:55,920
working on the ability to to add
this.

1536
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:58,997
So we, I don't, I'm sure you've
all been paying close attention

1537
01:23:58,997 --> 01:24:00,000
to our early schedule.

1538
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:03,367
About every month we put out a
fairly large update with some

1539
01:24:03,367 --> 01:24:03,880
new stuff.

1540
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:07,802
So we've got it mid-october
update plans and some of what I

1541
01:24:07,802 --> 01:24:09,960
showed you on the screen will be
in that update.

1542
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,320
The copying of drafts.

1543
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,760
I do not believe it's going to
be in the October update.

1544
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,120
So that's more probably a
November time frame.

1545
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:24,514
But yeah, we're planning
on doing that and it'll just

1546
01:24:24,514 --> 01:24:28,557
sort of be a go to your docket
one click copy, you know, makes

1547
01:24:28,557 --> 01:24:32,471
it makes a copy of whatever
you've got filled out currently,

1548
01:24:32,471 --> 01:24:35,680
it just won't copy the mark
information over.

1549
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,935
We get a lot of more than you
would think, a lot of duplicate

1550
01:24:38,935 --> 01:24:41,845
applications and those can cause
problems, especially if they're

1551
01:24:41,845 --> 01:24:42,920
not detected right away.

1552
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:46,810
So we really want to cut down on
on exact duplicates so the mark

1553
01:24:46,810 --> 01:24:48,280
information won't copy over.

1554
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:50,520
But everything else will. OK,

1555
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,941
and last question, this is from
Marie also in the e-mail there

1556
01:24:53,941 --> 01:24:57,336
used to be an option to submit
the application without a signed

1557
01:24:57,336 --> 01:25:00,783
declaration and to provide a .pdf
declaration signed by the client

1558
01:25:00,783 --> 01:25:02,640
like a wet signature you
uploaded.

1559
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:05,320
Is that is that an option still
available?

1560
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:10,000
Yes, both.  All the same
options that you have in TEAS.

1561
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:11,120
Great.

1562
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:14,600
OK, we are sort of we're just a
few minutes out.

1563
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:20,106
I'm going to go ahead and and
our wonderful Q&A section of

1564
01:25:20,106 --> 01:25:21,680
this presentation.

1565
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:25,581
I know we could go on forever and
a day because there's so many

1566
01:25:25,581 --> 01:25:29,297
wonderful things about this
Trademark Center filing process

1567
01:25:29,297 --> 01:25:33,013
that we could review, but we
don't have any additional time

1568
01:25:33,013 --> 01:25:35,800
and we want to respect everyone
else's time.

1569
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:39,277
So before we conclude today's
presentation, let me go ahead

1570
01:25:39,277 --> 01:25:42,987
and say a special thank you to
my attorney experts, Matt Schwab

1571
01:25:42,987 --> 01:25:46,581
and Kyle Ingram for leading our
discussion and for presenting

1572
01:25:46,581 --> 01:25:48,320
all this valuable information.

1573
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:49,280
We really appreciate it.

1574
01:25:49,480 --> 01:25:52,302
Special thank you to my manager,
Jason Lott, who's the managing

1575
01:25:52,302 --> 01:25:54,640
attorney of the trademarks
Customer Outreach office.

1576
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,776
He's traveling, but you know,
he's also tuned in and right

1577
01:25:57,776 --> 01:25:59,320
here to be of assistance to us.

1578
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:00,320
We really appreciate it.

1579
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:03,394
And Brandy Hill, our coordinator
for trademarks customer

1580
01:26:03,394 --> 01:26:03,880
outreach.

1581
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:04,720
Thank you so much.

1582
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:07,480
And of course, our event
producer, Jay Kim.

1583
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:10,978
I also want to draw your
attention to just a few more

1584
01:26:10,978 --> 01:26:11,560
reminders.

1585
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:13,847
In case you missed these in the
beginning, let me say them

1586
01:26:13,847 --> 01:26:14,080
again.

1587
01:26:14,480 --> 01:26:18,720
Around 3:30 PM today, Eastern
Time, you will receive an e-mail

1588
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:22,488
from Salesforce that contains
the following: a link to a

1589
01:26:22,488 --> 01:26:22,960
survey.

1590
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:26,240
It's going to only take you 3 to
4 minutes, we promise.

1591
01:26:26,480 --> 01:26:29,345
We always want to hear your
feedback on what's working and

1592
01:26:29,345 --> 01:26:29,880
what's not.

1593
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:33,680
You're also going to receive a
link to our presentation slides.

1594
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:37,889
If you're in Teams, you can snag
those that link right now in the

1595
01:26:37,889 --> 01:26:38,160
chat.

1596
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:42,287
If you're in Webex, you also
should have received a link to

1597
01:26:42,287 --> 01:26:45,670
those slides there, but we'll be
sending those out again via

1598
01:26:45,670 --> 01:26:46,280
Salesforce.

1599
01:26:46,440 --> 01:26:50,940
We'll be posting a recording of
the webinar on uspto.gov and on

1600
01:26:50,940 --> 01:26:53,120
YouTube in about 3 weeks or so.

1601
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:56,589
So hang in here with us as we
finalize this presentation and

1602
01:26:56,589 --> 01:26:59,819
get everything ready so that we
can go ahead and upload 

1603
01:26:59,819 --> 01:27:00,720
this information.

1604
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:03,920
And finally, we've applied for
Cle credit in Virginia.

1605
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:08,570
Once we receive approval, we
will e-mail that documentation

1606
01:27:08,570 --> 01:27:12,908
to our attendee list and that
documentation is going to

1607
01:27:12,908 --> 01:27:17,686
include instructions on how you
can apply for CLE and CLE credit

1608
01:27:17,686 --> 01:27:20,480
inside Virginia, outside of
Virginia.

1609
01:27:20,480 --> 01:27:23,752
OK, so you'll have information
for Virginia, of course, but

1610
01:27:23,752 --> 01:27:27,189
then how to apply if you're in
have bar credentials and states

1611
01:27:27,189 --> 01:27:28,280
outside of Virginia.

1612
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:32,102
My name is Mariessa Terrell, I want
to thank you so much for joining

1613
01:27:32,102 --> 01:27:32,560
us today.

1614
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:37,236
If you're curious about whatever
what other wonderful events we

1615
01:27:37,236 --> 01:27:41,464
have listed, please take a look
at our web page, go right on

1616
01:27:41,464 --> 01:27:43,960
over to uspto.gov and click
events.

1617
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:46,680
Type that in the search bar and
you will find us.

1618
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:48,040
We really appreciate it.

1619
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:49,960
Thank you so much and have a
wonderful day.