1 00:00:09,530 --> 00:00:13,530 My name is Tasha Bunch and I'm an attorney in the trademarks legal policy 2 00:00:13,530 --> 00:00:18,630 office joining me today we have Keri Genovese who is a senior attorney in the 3 00:00:18,630 --> 00:00:22,890 office of petitions we have Robert Lavash who is a senior attorney in the 4 00:00:22,890 --> 00:00:27,210 legal policy office Jessica LouDimond who is an attorney in the legal policy 5 00:00:27,210 --> 00:00:34,650 office and Tanya Amos who is the TEAS administrator our TMEP editor 6 00:00:34,650 --> 00:00:40,589 Kathy Kane is unable to join us today so I will go ahead and get us started 7 00:00:40,589 --> 00:00:45,210 talking about mandatory electronic filing and some of the specimen 8 00:00:45,210 --> 00:00:51,570 requirements I will be talking about some of the changes to some of the rule 9 00:00:51,570 --> 00:00:54,870 changes based on mandatory electronic filing 10 00:00:54,870 --> 00:00:58,379 so the first changes I will talk about are the changes to our filing date 11 00:00:58,379 --> 00:01:02,850 requirements we will now require once the rule is in effect we will now 12 00:01:02,850 --> 00:01:08,130 require that all applications filed under sections 1 and/or 44 be filed 13 00:01:08,130 --> 00:01:13,440 using the TEAS system unless the application is filed by a national of an 14 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:19,410 exempt treaty country or a petition to accept a paper filing as granted we also 15 00:01:19,410 --> 00:01:24,750 will require an email address for each applicant and we will require the 16 00:01:24,750 --> 00:01:29,369 practitioner if there is one appointed we will require their postal and email 17 00:01:29,369 --> 00:01:35,880 addresses in order to receive a filing date there are also some changes to our 18 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:40,250 filing options the t's + filing option will remain the same 19 00:01:40,250 --> 00:01:46,739 however the t's our F and T's regular options will go away and instead we will 20 00:01:46,739 --> 00:01:52,020 have the tea standard option at 275 dollars per class and that will now be 21 00:01:52,020 --> 00:01:57,179 the default electronic filing option in addition paper will remain the same at 22 00:01:57,179 --> 00:02:05,009 $600 per class I'd like to tell you a little bit about the processing fee for 23 00:02:05,009 --> 00:02:10,679 falling off of T's plus the fee will only be charged now for failing to 24 00:02:10,679 --> 00:02:16,980 comply with the t's plus initial filing requirements the first any submissions 25 00:02:16,980 --> 00:02:22,099 subsequent paper filings if they are granted on petition 26 00:02:22,099 --> 00:02:26,840 they will incur a paper fee as well as a petition fee but they will no longer 27 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:35,299 incur the additional processing fee T's plus them has some initial an additional 28 00:02:35,299 --> 00:02:41,269 initial filing requirements dealing with entity standards so the domestic 29 00:02:41,269 --> 00:02:45,159 partnerships must state the names and citizenship of the general partners 30 00:02:45,159 --> 00:02:49,400 domestic joint ventures must state the names and citizenship of the active 31 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:54,169 members and sole proprietorships must provide the state of organization and 32 00:02:54,169 --> 00:03:01,730 the name and citizenship of sole proprietors moving along to talk about 33 00:03:01,730 --> 00:03:08,060 correspondence all filings relating to applications and registrations must be 34 00:03:08,060 --> 00:03:13,159 submitted via T's unless once again it's filed by a national of an exempt treaty 35 00:03:13,159 --> 00:03:18,939 country or a petition to accept a paper filing has been granted 36 00:03:19,599 --> 00:03:24,889 however for applicants that prior to the effective date of the rule that were 37 00:03:24,889 --> 00:03:30,379 filing under paper or T's regular or for post registration maintenance documents 38 00:03:30,379 --> 00:03:34,220 filed before the effective date of the rule those filings are considered 39 00:03:34,220 --> 00:03:39,169 grandfathered in for those filings you are not required to provide an email 40 00:03:39,169 --> 00:03:45,739 address for correspondence or to file electronically however everyone should 41 00:03:45,739 --> 00:03:50,030 be aware that fax transmission is no longer permitted unless specifically 42 00:03:50,030 --> 00:03:54,250 directed by USPTO personnel 43 00:03:56,500 --> 00:04:01,220 grandfathered filers should also keep in mind that all T's forms going forward 44 00:04:01,220 --> 00:04:05,449 will require the applicants or n register or registrants email address 45 00:04:05,449 --> 00:04:10,069 and the email address of a qualified practitioner if if one has been 46 00:04:10,069 --> 00:04:16,159 appointed if an applicant or registrant who's grandfathered in attempts to use a 47 00:04:16,159 --> 00:04:20,599 form the form will not validate without providing this information furthermore 48 00:04:20,599 --> 00:04:24,139 the office will presume that email communication is authorized going 49 00:04:24,139 --> 00:04:28,310 forward and they will no longer be allowed to file via paper without 50 00:04:28,310 --> 00:04:31,599 submitting a petition 51 00:04:34,770 --> 00:04:40,930 for the correspondence address under the new rule it will automatically be set to 52 00:04:40,930 --> 00:04:44,710 the applicant if no attorney is appointed and it will be set to the 53 00:04:44,710 --> 00:04:49,780 email address of the applicant or registrar in the file if the applicant 54 00:04:49,780 --> 00:04:54,130 or registrar is represented then the correspondence will be sent to the email 55 00:04:54,130 --> 00:05:00,669 address of the attorney of record unless one of three things happens a revocation 56 00:05:00,669 --> 00:05:05,110 or a new power of attorney is filed the attorney has been suspended or excluded 57 00:05:05,110 --> 00:05:12,250 from practice or recognition has ended courtesy email addresses will still be 58 00:05:12,250 --> 00:05:20,290 permitted there is an exception for Madrid applications for the requirement 59 00:05:20,290 --> 00:05:26,110 for an email address at initial filing 6 section 66 a first action pubs will 60 00:05:26,110 --> 00:05:31,810 still be allowed under the new rule however for all subsequent submissions 61 00:05:31,810 --> 00:05:36,250 they must be filed using the T system and must designate an email address for 62 00:05:36,250 --> 00:05:43,360 correspondence in addition sometimes certain specimens must be mailed in 63 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:48,280 these would be for non-traditional marks such as scent or flavor marks if an 64 00:05:48,280 --> 00:05:52,450 applicant is submitting a specimen for these type of marks they should indicate 65 00:05:52,450 --> 00:05:56,860 in their t's filing that the specimen will be mailed in no petition requesting 66 00:05:56,860 --> 00:06:01,270 acceptance of this mailed in specimen will be required please note that this 67 00:06:01,270 --> 00:06:05,710 exception does not apply to sound or emotion marks the t's form permits 68 00:06:05,710 --> 00:06:14,320 attachment of specimens for such marks as electronic files and now I will pass 69 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,550 it to my colleague Kari 70 00:06:21,660 --> 00:06:26,220 Thank You Tasha I'm going to talk about when you are unable to file 71 00:06:26,220 --> 00:06:30,900 electronically whether it's because the t system has failed or the user system 72 00:06:30,900 --> 00:06:36,000 is having a problem this would include widespread disruptions natural disasters 73 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:40,200 and emergencies the procedures and requirements you should follow depend on 74 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:47,160 whether your attempt to file is before or on your filing deadline day if you're 75 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,840 filing attempt is before the filing deadline please try again later through 76 00:06:51,840 --> 00:06:57,660 T's you can check the system status and availability availability page for any 77 00:06:57,660 --> 00:07:02,580 declared widespread outages and scheduled maintenance if you're still 78 00:07:02,580 --> 00:07:07,020 having issues contact the t's staff for technical assistance you can email them 79 00:07:07,020 --> 00:07:12,870 at T's at uspto.gov and if you have questions for phone calls you can call 80 00:07:12,870 --> 00:07:19,170 tac if you're filing attempt is the same day as the filing deadline and your 81 00:07:19,170 --> 00:07:25,080 desired T's form or the t's fee payment processing system is unavailable but the 82 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:30,030 t's petition to director form is available please use that form you can 83 00:07:30,030 --> 00:07:34,290 file the petition electronically on the due date including a written verified 84 00:07:34,290 --> 00:07:39,210 explanation of why of how your form was unavailable evidence showing it was 85 00:07:39,210 --> 00:07:43,380 unavailable the document you're attempting to file and the electronic 86 00:07:43,380 --> 00:07:49,620 petition fee and any electronic fees for the filing you're trying to submit if 87 00:07:49,620 --> 00:07:54,900 the filing attempt is the same day as your deadline and that your T's form is 88 00:07:54,900 --> 00:07:59,430 unavailable as well as the t's petition to director form you will need to file 89 00:07:59,430 --> 00:08:05,280 your petition on paper requesting acceptance of a paper filing you should 90 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,940 use the petition to accept paper cover sheet which has a checklist of the 91 00:08:08,940 --> 00:08:13,470 requirements this will be posted on our website include proof that T's was 92 00:08:13,470 --> 00:08:19,110 unavailable on the submission due date the proof can consist of a printout of a 93 00:08:19,110 --> 00:08:23,070 screenshot showing the error message you received or a statement of this fact 94 00:08:23,070 --> 00:08:27,390 with a signed declaration you'll need to provide a two hundred dollar paper 95 00:08:27,390 --> 00:08:33,150 petition fee and any paper fees required for the document you're submitting the 96 00:08:33,150 --> 00:08:35,400 signs certificate of mailing which is also 97 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,720 provided on the cover sheet and the document you're attempting to file and 98 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:47,280 we will provide pre preview PDFs for the t's forms that you can complete by hand 99 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:52,830 and submit if the filing attempt is the same day is the filing deadline and 100 00:08:52,830 --> 00:08:58,290 you're unable to login to your uspto.gov account please first see the 101 00:08:58,290 --> 00:09:04,110 troubleshooting tips on the FAQ s website if you're still unable you can 102 00:09:04,110 --> 00:09:09,480 contact TAC they have the ability to help you reset your password and if it's 103 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:14,160 still you're still not able to log in in order to use T's you will need to follow 104 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:18,780 the instructions on the previous slide for filing your petition along with your 105 00:09:18,780 --> 00:09:24,570 paper submission if the filing attempt is the same day as the filing deadline 106 00:09:24,570 --> 00:09:30,300 and the USPTO has declared a widespread service disruption it will be posted on 107 00:09:30,300 --> 00:09:34,470 our system status and availability page along with instructions about how to 108 00:09:34,470 --> 00:09:40,430 submit your filing to us J in general fax transmission is not permitted unless 109 00:09:40,430 --> 00:09:45,600 the USPTO has declared this type of widespread disruption and specifically 110 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:50,340 instructed customers to submit documents via fax otherwise it will be instructed 111 00:09:50,340 --> 00:09:55,050 to submit documents via regular mail no petition or petition fee is required in 112 00:09:55,050 --> 00:10:01,050 this situation if you're filing attempt is the same day as the filing deadline 113 00:10:01,050 --> 00:10:05,670 and an extraordinary situation not covered by the other categories prevents 114 00:10:05,670 --> 00:10:09,780 you from filing electronically you'll need to file on paper with petition 115 00:10:09,780 --> 00:10:14,610 including an explanation as to why your situation qualifies as extraordinary and 116 00:10:14,610 --> 00:10:18,530 you'll follow the same procedures outlined in the second scenario 117 00:10:18,530 --> 00:10:25,290 previously discussed so just a brief synopsis of the three categories of 118 00:10:25,290 --> 00:10:31,080 petitions to the director under the new rule two point one four seven the first 119 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:35,400 is this situation we've already discussed that as T's is unavailable on 120 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,690 the date of a deadline for submission and the applicant provides proof that 121 00:10:39,690 --> 00:10:44,850 T's was unavailable the second category is for if for 122 00:10:44,850 --> 00:10:48,259 example an applicant or registrant did was unaware of the manager 123 00:10:48,259 --> 00:10:53,689 filing electronic filing requirements and previously filed a paper submission 124 00:10:53,689 --> 00:10:59,299 that was not processed and was rejected by the USPTO within two months you can 125 00:10:59,299 --> 00:11:04,309 file a petition to accept the previously submitted paper filing if you're unable 126 00:11:04,309 --> 00:11:08,809 to resubmit the document electronically by the statutory deadline and this 127 00:11:08,809 --> 00:11:13,699 option only applies to particular documents that have statutory filing 128 00:11:13,699 --> 00:11:20,179 deadlines such as a statement of use a section 8 or 71 declaration of user 129 00:11:20,179 --> 00:11:25,819 excusable non-use the third set the third category is kind of the same 130 00:11:25,819 --> 00:11:30,079 catch-all category as mentioned on the previous slide if the applicant or 131 00:11:30,079 --> 00:11:34,160 registrant doesn't qualify under one of the first two sections of the rule they 132 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,549 can request acceptance of a paper submission due to some other 133 00:11:37,549 --> 00:11:43,579 extraordinary situation but please keep in mind regularly scheduled teas 134 00:11:43,579 --> 00:11:47,839 maintenance or user error will generally not be considered an extraordinary 135 00:11:47,839 --> 00:11:52,279 situation and the rules and policies regarding postal service interruptions 136 00:11:52,279 --> 00:11:58,970 and emergencies remain unchanged and I will pass this to Robert lavash who's 137 00:11:58,970 --> 00:12:03,799 going to discuss iseman rule updates thank you very much Carrie 138 00:12:03,799 --> 00:12:08,899 as Carrie mentioned I'm going to be talking about updates to rule 2.56 the 139 00:12:08,899 --> 00:12:13,759 specimen rule which we included in the mandatory electronic filing rule package 140 00:12:13,759 --> 00:12:19,789 to better conform with existing statutory requirements and presidential 141 00:12:19,789 --> 00:12:26,149 case law regarding specimens so first let's talk about our update to the 142 00:12:26,149 --> 00:12:31,039 wording regarding labels and tags you'll see with the underlined wording here 143 00:12:31,039 --> 00:12:36,739 that the rule now refers to a trademark specimen for goods having to be on 144 00:12:36,739 --> 00:12:41,899 containers marks on the goods on the containers our packaging for the goods 145 00:12:41,899 --> 00:12:46,639 on labels or tags affixed to the goods or on a display associated with the 146 00:12:46,639 --> 00:12:51,319 goods and this change was intended to incorporate the language regarding use 147 00:12:51,319 --> 00:12:57,339 of Commerce that's in section 45 of the trademark Act 148 00:12:57,560 --> 00:13:03,339 now although the rule says labels or tags affixed labels of tags that are not 149 00:13:03,339 --> 00:13:09,499 affixed may still be accepted if on their face they clearly show the mark in 150 00:13:09,499 --> 00:13:14,180 actual use in commerce so that means that the tag or label would have to 151 00:13:14,180 --> 00:13:19,220 include the informational matter that typically appears on a label for those 152 00:13:19,220 --> 00:13:25,600 types of goods so for food it might be something like net weight or volume 153 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:33,110 often on an actual label you'll see a UPC barcode and then in other cases you 154 00:13:33,110 --> 00:13:35,839 might see lists of contents or ingredients so we're looking for the 155 00:13:35,839 --> 00:13:42,949 indicia of use and commerce on that label if it's on a fixed so if a label 156 00:13:42,949 --> 00:13:47,269 or tag does not clearly show actual use in commerce because it appears for 157 00:13:47,269 --> 00:13:51,410 instance to be merely temporary or it appears to be a mock-up it will likely 158 00:13:51,410 --> 00:13:56,569 be refused under trademark Act sections 1 and 45 for failure to show the mark in 159 00:13:56,569 --> 00:14:01,069 actual use in commerce in connection with the goods in addition the examining 160 00:14:01,069 --> 00:14:06,920 attorney is likely to include with that refusal a request for information under 161 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:15,439 Rule 2.61 B to clarify use of the specimen in commerce so here we've got a 162 00:14:15,439 --> 00:14:19,670 couple of example examples of labels that we would still deem to be 163 00:14:19,670 --> 00:14:24,410 acceptable even though they are not shown a fix to the goods in the first 164 00:14:24,410 --> 00:14:28,069 case you have a unattached label for crab rangoon 165 00:14:28,069 --> 00:14:36,170 it has a UPC code it has the mark it has the number of indicia that you would see 166 00:14:36,170 --> 00:14:42,079 on a label that's actually used in commerce likewise on the second specimen 167 00:14:42,079 --> 00:14:48,889 we see a lot of product information a UPC label safety information and it's 168 00:14:48,889 --> 00:14:52,309 clear that this is the type of label that could be immediately applied to the 169 00:14:52,309 --> 00:14:56,389 goods in question so both of these under the amended rules would still be 170 00:14:56,389 --> 00:15:04,939 acceptable and here's yet another one that would be acceptable this is a wine 171 00:15:04,939 --> 00:15:10,760 label it has the usual information that wine labels either usually contain 172 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:16,550 or are required to contain under other regulations that has a UPC code has the 173 00:15:16,550 --> 00:15:19,490 government warning it looks like a label that could be 174 00:15:19,490 --> 00:15:27,579 applied to a wine bottle so we would take this these are examples of 175 00:15:27,579 --> 00:15:32,899 specimens that are likely to get a refusal under the rule and the reason is 176 00:15:32,899 --> 00:15:38,029 they look temporary or mocked up it's not clear that these are labels that are 177 00:15:38,029 --> 00:15:44,389 actually used on the goods in commerce they have a temporary mocked up look to 178 00:15:44,389 --> 00:15:49,970 them in this case these specimens are likely to get a refusal and a request 179 00:15:49,970 --> 00:15:54,769 for information it is still possible that the applicant could respond and 180 00:15:54,769 --> 00:15:59,660 explain that yes this is indeed how we fix our labels and provides additional 181 00:15:59,660 --> 00:16:05,600 evidence to to show to show that in that case the examining attorney may withdraw 182 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:18,050 the refusal so let's move on to 2.56 b2 which is the service mark requirements 183 00:16:18,050 --> 00:16:23,360 we've now updated that that rule language to incorporate wording that's 184 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:28,760 consistent with recent TTAB decisions and examination policy so now we refer 185 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:36,079 to use of the mark in the performance or rendering of the service services and we 186 00:16:36,079 --> 00:16:39,410 refer to the mark meeting to show the specimen needing to show a direct 187 00:16:39,410 --> 00:16:46,339 association between the mark and the services in this first example we show a 188 00:16:46,339 --> 00:16:51,079 specimen that does show a direct association of the mark and the 189 00:16:51,079 --> 00:16:54,920 identified services in the upper left corner of the screen there you see the 190 00:16:54,920 --> 00:17:01,339 the mark Civics and in the middle right portion you see a direct reference to 191 00:17:01,339 --> 00:17:06,169 the identified services digital marketing and advertising so in this 192 00:17:06,169 --> 00:17:10,160 case the direct Association is shown and the mark that specimen would be 193 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:17,250 acceptable under the rule in this example which is a bit more nuanced 194 00:17:17,250 --> 00:17:22,110 we have the mark appearing on the specimens and the identified services 195 00:17:22,110 --> 00:17:26,610 our retail store services featuring medical devices these specimens are 196 00:17:26,610 --> 00:17:31,350 likely to be refused as not showing a direct association because again we've 197 00:17:31,350 --> 00:17:36,890 identified retail store services but the specimens in use here appear to be 198 00:17:36,890 --> 00:17:44,220 invoices in a sales addendum that typically you would not see when used in 199 00:17:44,220 --> 00:17:50,430 the retail store environment it's not typically the type of materials that are 200 00:17:50,430 --> 00:17:54,900 associated with that and there's otherwise no direct reference to the 201 00:17:54,900 --> 00:18:02,600 retail store services so in that case the specimens are likely to be refused 202 00:18:03,770 --> 00:18:11,100 moving on to rule 2.5 6c we've updated our rule regarding webpage specimens we 203 00:18:11,100 --> 00:18:17,700 now require that each webpage specimen include the URL URL and the access or 204 00:18:17,700 --> 00:18:24,540 print date of that of the web page that's excerpted so here's just an 205 00:18:24,540 --> 00:18:28,620 example of that in the upper left corner you see the access date further to the 206 00:18:28,620 --> 00:18:36,090 right you see the URL URL if the webpage specimen contains the URL and access 207 00:18:36,090 --> 00:18:43,890 date in this manner it's likely to comply with the rule and now we just 208 00:18:43,890 --> 00:18:47,430 have a couple seconds to switch over to our other presentation and I'm going to 209 00:18:47,430 --> 00:18:51,020 turn it over to Jessica Lou Diamond 210 00:18:55,679 --> 00:19:00,400 great thank you as Robert mentioned I'm going to be 211 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:05,890 discussing the t's form updates that are being made in conjunction with the 212 00:19:05,890 --> 00:19:11,980 mandatory electronic filing rulemaking today we're going to discuss the changes 213 00:19:11,980 --> 00:19:17,740 that affect all the forms the initial application forms the petition forms the 214 00:19:17,740 --> 00:19:22,539 post registration forms and the correspondence and attorney and domestic 215 00:19:22,539 --> 00:19:30,460 representative forms first we'll start with changes affecting all the forms one 216 00:19:30,460 --> 00:19:34,929 of the biggest changes you'll notice is that the owner email address field is 217 00:19:34,929 --> 00:19:39,730 now mandatory if you've used artis forms before you've 218 00:19:39,730 --> 00:19:47,440 probably seen that we have a checkbox underneath the owner and attorney email 219 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:54,400 address fields to provide authorization for the USPTO to communicate under this 220 00:19:54,400 --> 00:20:00,010 new rulemaking email authorization is presumed so we've removed the checkbox 221 00:20:00,010 --> 00:20:05,950 for authorizing email communication when you provide an email address for either 222 00:20:05,950 --> 00:20:13,360 the owner holder the attorney or the domestic representative we also have 223 00:20:13,360 --> 00:20:18,760 revised the correspondence information page in all the t's forms we've removed 224 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:24,159 the postal address the telephone number and fax number fields the name and 225 00:20:24,159 --> 00:20:28,870 primary email address fields for correspondence are not editable on this 226 00:20:28,870 --> 00:20:34,630 page they populate from either the attorneys email address if an attorney 227 00:20:34,630 --> 00:20:40,929 is appointed otherwise from the trademark owners email address you can 228 00:20:40,929 --> 00:20:46,570 enter up to four secondary email addresses for courtesy copies of USPTO 229 00:20:46,570 --> 00:20:56,620 communications on this page similarly the validation page previously has had 230 00:20:56,620 --> 00:21:06,040 an email for ignite the user could edit to enter the email address to receive 231 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:11,320 you received for filing this field has now been renamed the primary email 232 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:16,150 address for correspondence and there is a new secondary email address field to 233 00:21:16,150 --> 00:21:20,710 make it easier to identify the recipients of the filing receipt you 234 00:21:20,710 --> 00:21:27,100 cannot change these email addresses on this page these email addresses are used 235 00:21:27,100 --> 00:21:33,490 to send the t's filing receipt email these email addresses pre-populate with 236 00:21:33,490 --> 00:21:38,260 the primary email address for correspondence again this is either the 237 00:21:38,260 --> 00:21:43,840 appointed attorneys email address or the trademark owners email address if an 238 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:49,570 attorney is not appointed and again the secondary email address is if anywhere 239 00:21:49,570 --> 00:21:57,730 it will also appear here you should also know that most T's forms now contain 240 00:21:57,730 --> 00:22:02,860 both an owner and an attorney information page this will make it 241 00:22:02,860 --> 00:22:07,870 easier to provide required information without having to access a separate form 242 00:22:07,870 --> 00:22:13,420 you'll be able to provide attorney Bar membership information an attorney email 243 00:22:13,420 --> 00:22:21,220 address or an owner email address on most forms we also have a new owner 244 00:22:21,220 --> 00:22:26,770 information page for our Madrid filers the t's forms will include this version 245 00:22:26,770 --> 00:22:33,850 for all 79 series files it'll permit the addition or update of an owner holder 246 00:22:33,850 --> 00:22:39,610 email address please note that changes to the owner holders postal address must 247 00:22:39,610 --> 00:22:46,030 continue to be made using the WIPO mm9 form a separate domicile address can be 248 00:22:46,030 --> 00:22:52,960 provided for 79 series owner holders in the new change address or representation 249 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:58,090 form we'll discuss both the domicile address and the change address their 250 00:22:58,090 --> 00:23:05,650 representation form a little bit later another addition to the forms is a 251 00:23:05,650 --> 00:23:11,370 separate field for recognized Canadian attorneys and agents currently 252 00:23:11,370 --> 00:23:15,820 recognized Canadian attorneys and agents have to be entered in the other 253 00:23:15,820 --> 00:23:20,810 appointed attorneys field on the attorney information page now they can 254 00:23:20,810 --> 00:23:30,200 be entered separately in the recognized Canadian attorney agent field next we'll 255 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:35,990 move on to changes to the initial application forms as we mentioned 256 00:23:35,990 --> 00:23:42,200 earlier in this presentation the filing options have changed T's RF has been 257 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:48,320 renamed t standard and T's regular is no longer a filing option there is now 258 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:54,050 going to be a new single initial application form for T's plus and T's 259 00:23:54,050 --> 00:24:00,350 standard a domicile address can be provided for the trademark owner this 260 00:24:00,350 --> 00:24:06,920 address is kept private by using a new field we also have new fields for the 261 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:14,810 sole proprietor these provide clear prompts for required information as I 262 00:24:14,810 --> 00:24:19,850 mentioned the T's plus and t standard initial application form is now a single 263 00:24:19,850 --> 00:24:25,640 combined form on the wizard page you'll select the desired filing option you can 264 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,900 toggle between these filing options while in the form if needed by returning 265 00:24:29,900 --> 00:24:34,010 to the wizard page and simply clicking on the correct radio button and moving 266 00:24:34,010 --> 00:24:41,600 back through the form we also now have a new domicile address field we've 267 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,470 enhanced the initial application forms and the new change address or 268 00:24:45,470 --> 00:24:50,530 representation form to allow owners to provide a separate domicile address 269 00:24:50,530 --> 00:24:55,820 although the USPTO presumes that the owners street address an owner's 270 00:24:55,820 --> 00:25:02,060 domicile address are the same if they are not you may enter a separate address 271 00:25:02,060 --> 00:25:08,300 in the domicile address field this address is not publicly viewable in the 272 00:25:08,300 --> 00:25:15,140 USPTO s TSD our database we made this edition in response to concerns from our 273 00:25:15,140 --> 00:25:21,800 customers about privacy as I said it's not viewable in the TSD our database and 274 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:27,250 this includes both on the Status tab and in the documents themselves 275 00:25:28,019 --> 00:25:34,139 on the owner information page we have new fields for the sole proprietors 276 00:25:34,139 --> 00:25:39,490 domestic sole proprietors will now enter their name in a text field the sole 277 00:25:39,490 --> 00:25:46,480 proprietors citizenship is separately selected from a drop-down menu now we'll 278 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:52,330 discuss changes to the petition forms we have a revised petition to the director 279 00:25:52,330 --> 00:25:57,970 form this form now has dedicated fields instead of an open text box the reasons 280 00:25:57,970 --> 00:26:01,899 for the petition and any necessary updates to the application or 281 00:26:01,899 --> 00:26:08,529 registration that are the subject of the petition are clearly identified on the 282 00:26:08,529 --> 00:26:13,029 wizard page you'll enter your serial number or registration number and on the 283 00:26:13,029 --> 00:26:17,769 next screen you'll select the reason for your petition there are two versions of 284 00:26:17,769 --> 00:26:22,960 this there will be reasons for pre-registration filings and post 285 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,429 registration filings you'll select the reason for your petition using the 286 00:26:27,429 --> 00:26:31,659 appropriate radio button and then you'll answer questions to indicate the type of 287 00:26:31,659 --> 00:26:37,029 information you want to provide within the petition the wizard questions will 288 00:26:37,029 --> 00:26:43,830 help you build a personalized form with dedicated fields for filing information 289 00:26:43,830 --> 00:26:50,649 next we'll discuss changes to the post registration forms the post registration 290 00:26:50,649 --> 00:26:55,960 response to office action form has been enhanced to a dedicated field form 291 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,889 you'll select the filing that prompted the office action and the wizard 292 00:26:59,889 --> 00:27:04,659 questions will allow you to build a customized response again you'll use 293 00:27:04,659 --> 00:27:11,559 dedicated fields instead of an open text box for providing your response similar 294 00:27:11,559 --> 00:27:16,690 to the petition to the director you'll select using radio buttons the dedicated 295 00:27:16,690 --> 00:27:21,759 form options for your filing type you'll choose your option and then complete 296 00:27:21,759 --> 00:27:29,110 your form next we'll discuss changes to correspondence and attorney and domestic 297 00:27:29,110 --> 00:27:35,710 representative forms we have consolidated six closely related forms 298 00:27:35,710 --> 00:27:40,750 into one this will allow you to complete a single form for several related 299 00:27:40,750 --> 00:27:47,740 Auctions this new form is called the change address or representation form we 300 00:27:47,740 --> 00:27:51,490 have included the revocation appointment of attorney and domestic representative 301 00:27:51,490 --> 00:27:55,960 form the change of domestic representatives address withdrawal of 302 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:00,790 domestic representative change of owner address change of correspondents address 303 00:28:00,790 --> 00:28:08,590 and the replacement of attorney form this new form uses role-based logic 304 00:28:08,590 --> 00:28:13,450 you'll enter your serial or registration numbers and then will identify yourself 305 00:28:13,450 --> 00:28:19,150 as either the owner attorney or domestic representative by selecting the 306 00:28:19,150 --> 00:28:23,710 appropriate radio button questions appropriate to the identified role will 307 00:28:23,710 --> 00:28:28,540 appear based on the status of the files in the USPTO s database and the user 308 00:28:28,540 --> 00:28:33,940 will indicate what data should be updated on this screen we're showing you 309 00:28:33,940 --> 00:28:39,520 the types of updates that can be made in your application or registration you can 310 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,510 update contact information for the trademark owner holder an already 311 00:28:43,510 --> 00:28:47,980 appointed attorney or an already appointed domestic representative this 312 00:28:47,980 --> 00:28:52,420 includes updating attorney bar information you can appoint a u.s. 313 00:28:52,420 --> 00:28:57,190 licensed attorney to represent you before the USPTO or appointed domestic 314 00:28:57,190 --> 00:29:01,120 representative you can appear for the first time as attorney of record on 315 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,620 behalf of an owner holder who is not currently represented you can replace 316 00:29:05,620 --> 00:29:09,580 the attorney of record with another already appointed attorney you can 317 00:29:09,580 --> 00:29:14,020 revoke the power of a previously appointed attorney remove a previously 318 00:29:14,020 --> 00:29:18,100 appointed attorney from the record because the power is undead or withdraw 319 00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:25,390 is domestic representative last we're going to discuss the deployment teas 320 00:29:25,390 --> 00:29:32,860 antes I will be unavailable on Saturday December 21st from 12:01 a.m. until 8:00 321 00:29:32,860 --> 00:29:39,280 a.m. Eastern Time to incorporate the mandatory electronic filing changes you 322 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:45,850 must file all saved forms and ecig mature forms by 11:59 p.m. Eastern Time 323 00:29:45,850 --> 00:29:52,510 on Friday December 20th 2019 so that your data is not lost if you do not file 324 00:29:52,510 --> 00:29:56,399 all of your save forms by that time you will have to start the 325 00:29:56,399 --> 00:30:03,419 process again with new forms if you have any questions about the information we 326 00:30:03,419 --> 00:30:09,390 discussed during this webinar you can email TM underscore webinar at USPTO gov 327 00:30:09,390 --> 00:30:13,010 and we'll be happy to answer questions 328 00:30:13,970 --> 00:30:18,480 I'm now going to take a look at our mailbox and see what we have is 329 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:24,710 questions that have come in my name is Tonya Amos and I'm the t's administrator 330 00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:30,659 the first question that we have is it looks like it's for Jessica its is the 331 00:30:30,659 --> 00:30:36,659 domicile information only masked if I use the new domicile address field 332 00:30:36,659 --> 00:30:43,409 that's a great question and yes that is correct you must use the dedicated 333 00:30:43,409 --> 00:30:48,750 domicile address field in order for your information to be masked if you include 334 00:30:48,750 --> 00:30:55,230 that address in any other miscellaneous field or otherwise in a response it will 335 00:30:55,230 --> 00:31:04,590 not be masked within that document the next question is related to specimens it 336 00:31:04,590 --> 00:31:10,830 is does the URL and access data have to be on the specimen or can it be 337 00:31:10,830 --> 00:31:15,740 somewhere else in the filing Bob would you be able to answer that question sure 338 00:31:15,740 --> 00:31:19,620 ideally we would like it to be on the specimen itself but that's not a 339 00:31:19,620 --> 00:31:23,549 requirement you can include it elsewhere in the in the filing it's the 340 00:31:23,549 --> 00:31:27,659 application or the response to office action or you could even include it in a 341 00:31:27,659 --> 00:31:36,240 subsequent filing the next question that's come in is I see that email 342 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,700 authorization is presumed what if I previously did not authorize email but 343 00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:46,980 provided an email address what happens after mandatory electronic filing 344 00:31:46,980 --> 00:31:53,039 Jessica can you answer that question yes so even if you previously did not 345 00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:58,680 provide email authorization once you come in and use the t's form the forms 346 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:03,810 are automatically presuming email authorization so once you access and use 347 00:32:03,810 --> 00:32:12,330 and file using the forms email authorization is now presumed great and 348 00:32:12,330 --> 00:32:18,750 we have another question which is how do I change the email address on the 349 00:32:18,750 --> 00:32:22,200 validation page for the filing receipt I guess 350 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,070 Jessica you probably be in the best shape to answer that one that's another 351 00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:32,400 good question similar to you how I explained that the email addresses were 352 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,510 not edible editable on the correspondence information page they are 353 00:32:36,510 --> 00:32:42,240 also not editable on the validation page so if you do need to make a change the 354 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,930 primary email address for correspondence whether it's the one that you see 355 00:32:45,930 --> 00:32:49,680 appearing on the validation page same as the one that's appearing on the 356 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,700 correspondence information page you would have to go back in the form to 357 00:32:53,700 --> 00:32:57,630 make that edit if you have an appointed attorney you'll have to edit the email 358 00:32:57,630 --> 00:33:02,460 address for your appointed attorney if you're an unrepresented owner you would 359 00:33:02,460 --> 00:33:08,430 edit your owner email address the secondary email addresses the courtesy 360 00:33:08,430 --> 00:33:14,190 copies those are edited on the correspondence information page ok we 361 00:33:14,190 --> 00:33:19,920 now have a question about evidence it's what type of evidence must be 362 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:24,630 provided to show that Teese was unavailable Carrie would you be able to 363 00:33:24,630 --> 00:33:31,950 answer so evidence could consist of the screenshot of the error message you 364 00:33:31,950 --> 00:33:36,540 received when you attempted to file a teas form and were unable to do so 365 00:33:36,540 --> 00:33:42,420 it could also consist of email correspondence between an applicant and 366 00:33:42,420 --> 00:33:48,750 register registrant and the teas staff or just a statement saying I was unable 367 00:33:48,750 --> 00:33:55,290 to access teas along with the a signed declaration under Rule 2.20 without the 368 00:33:55,290 --> 00:34:01,200 standard declaration language ok um and we have another question that just came 369 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:07,230 in Bob I think this one is for you it's at what stage and the application is the 370 00:34:07,230 --> 00:34:12,490 applicant now required at what stage is the 371 00:34:12,490 --> 00:34:18,940 applicant email required right as soon as you file it right yeah so if you if 372 00:34:18,940 --> 00:34:24,610 you're unrepresented you need to provide your email address and if you are 373 00:34:24,610 --> 00:34:27,850 represented by an attorney you're gonna need to provide your email address and 374 00:34:27,850 --> 00:34:32,380 the attorneys email address I should say the attorney is going to provide that 375 00:34:32,380 --> 00:34:46,419 information if you have an attorney okay and the next question that I have is why 376 00:34:46,419 --> 00:34:51,190 would I be able to file a t's petition form if the other forms are unavailable 377 00:34:51,190 --> 00:35:00,400 I can answer that I attempt to so sometimes there could be a situation 378 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:07,080 where there's a glitch with one particular T's form or you're unable to 379 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,890 submit the t's form you're trying to submit because of a payment processing 380 00:35:11,890 --> 00:35:17,980 error and so the t's petition to director form the new one has an option 381 00:35:17,980 --> 00:35:21,580 that you can select it's a radio button option that you 382 00:35:21,580 --> 00:35:26,890 encountered an error when trying to process fees on another T's form and 383 00:35:26,890 --> 00:35:31,780 you'll be able to proceed through the form that way so it we're hoping that 384 00:35:31,780 --> 00:35:35,410 that would help customers get get something in the door if they're having 385 00:35:35,410 --> 00:35:41,560 issues with their other T's forms and you know pay the lower electronic filing 386 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:47,740 fees all right we have a question about issues that might occur after the 387 00:35:47,740 --> 00:35:52,380 deployment what do I do if I have an issue after the deployment 388 00:35:52,380 --> 00:35:58,300 Jessica can you answer that so just as you're doing now you'll do also after 389 00:35:58,300 --> 00:36:02,380 the deployment if you are having technical problems please email teased 390 00:36:02,380 --> 00:36:11,170 at uspto.gov okay we have a question about the new car form the the question 391 00:36:11,170 --> 00:36:16,420 is we have different radio buttons for the owner the attorney of the record and 392 00:36:16,420 --> 00:36:21,010 the domestic representative this new form can you click on two 393 00:36:21,010 --> 00:36:27,400 options at the same time or is it a single option it is a single option so 394 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:32,530 you will have to select one radio button identifying your role in either the 395 00:36:32,530 --> 00:36:40,960 application or registration ok and if you appoint an attorney who are you 396 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:46,210 sending correspondence to kasher can you answer that question sure I can answer 397 00:36:46,210 --> 00:36:52,000 that question correspondence will be sent to the the email address of the 398 00:36:52,000 --> 00:37:01,020 attorney of record okay and the next question is where do I get information 399 00:37:01,020 --> 00:37:09,700 on outages okay or you can answer that and it's our current website I believe 400 00:37:09,700 --> 00:37:14,740 right now it's called filing documents during an outage it will be renamed in 401 00:37:14,740 --> 00:37:19,630 the near future but we will provide lots of information on that page about how to 402 00:37:19,630 --> 00:37:23,650 submit your documents if there's an outage and always to check the system 403 00:37:23,650 --> 00:37:32,010 status and availability page for our current status ok we have a question on 404 00:37:32,010 --> 00:37:39,150 can I send my document in via email Tasha 405 00:37:39,850 --> 00:37:45,490 sure I can answer that question formal communications still cannot be sent via 406 00:37:45,490 --> 00:37:51,820 email only in formal communications ok and we have another question that's come 407 00:37:51,820 --> 00:37:57,880 in that is how are you keeping owner email addresses private and I can answer 408 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:03,370 that question because I was intimately involved about three or four months ago 409 00:38:03,370 --> 00:38:10,750 we had a TS TR release we're on the Status page we masked the owner email 410 00:38:10,750 --> 00:38:17,170 address of unrepresented owner so if you go into TS CR now and you go to the 411 00:38:17,170 --> 00:38:24,700 Status page you'll notice that the owner email address is masked let me see if we 412 00:38:24,700 --> 00:38:31,330 have any more questions that came in oh here's a question on 413 00:38:31,330 --> 00:38:36,010 what do you recommend we do to avoid filing on paper carry this sounds like a 414 00:38:36,010 --> 00:38:44,200 petition sure the first tip would be do not wait till the last day just to make 415 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:52,900 sure that you give yourself plenty of time otherwise you know keep sign up for 416 00:38:52,900 --> 00:38:58,120 TM alerts if there's some sort of major outage or anything like that we would 417 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,650 send a team alert and the bookmark the system status an availability page and 418 00:39:02,650 --> 00:39:07,930 also we will provide on our on the outages page there will be a 419 00:39:07,930 --> 00:39:13,270 downloadable PDF for the petition to accept paper you can download that and 420 00:39:13,270 --> 00:39:22,330 save that on your computer in the event of an emergency that's about it okay our 421 00:39:22,330 --> 00:39:27,190 next question is how do I indicate that I will be mailing in a specimen for a 422 00:39:27,190 --> 00:39:35,230 non-traditional mark Bob can you answer that one well when you do that you can 423 00:39:35,230 --> 00:39:39,250 have to file electronically but you have to indicate in the application that you 424 00:39:39,250 --> 00:39:44,370 are separately submitting your specimen by by mail and I believe there's a 425 00:39:44,370 --> 00:39:50,740 there's a checkbox that you can check off to indicate that and let's see if 426 00:39:50,740 --> 00:39:59,500 there's any more questions here's one if I was a tease regular application and I 427 00:39:59,500 --> 00:40:04,960 file my response electronically and have to add a class what is the fee that all 428 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:12,820 be paying I can answer that one so if a an applicant that originally filed 429 00:40:12,820 --> 00:40:17,200 teased regular and they submit electronically to add a class they will 430 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,370 now pay the default t standard filing fee of two hundred and seventy five 431 00:40:21,370 --> 00:40:27,700 dollars per class okay and here's one that just came in it says there is a 432 00:40:27,700 --> 00:40:32,380 time delay from when an application is filed until the application is 433 00:40:32,380 --> 00:40:37,960 accessible in the t system will the new petition form allow the user to enter a 434 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:43,090 serial number for an application not otherwise available in the t system in 435 00:40:43,090 --> 00:40:45,970 the following the new application filing and 436 00:40:45,970 --> 00:40:51,700 I'll go ahead and answer that question the answer is unfortunately no once the 437 00:40:51,700 --> 00:40:55,930 t's application is filed it still has to go through our back-end processing and 438 00:40:55,930 --> 00:41:02,200 be assigned a serial number before it'll be eligible for use of the petition form 439 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,700 if you have a particular scenario that requires immediate assistance please 440 00:41:06,700 --> 00:41:13,420 don't hesitate to email T's @ uspto.gov we'll gladly assist you let's see if we 441 00:41:13,420 --> 00:41:22,210 have any more that have come in what if I filed on paper or a T's regular 442 00:41:22,210 --> 00:41:28,810 application before December 21st am i obligated to file electronically I can 443 00:41:28,810 --> 00:41:35,260 answer that question as I talked about in my on my slides for applicants that 444 00:41:35,260 --> 00:41:41,080 file on paper or T's regular you are considered grandfathered in at the time 445 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:46,000 of the ruling you can continue to file on paper if you so choose however you 446 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,440 should be aware that if you do use the t's form it will require you to submit 447 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:55,270 an email address in order to submit the form and going forward you will be 448 00:41:55,270 --> 00:42:04,080 required to meet the mandatory electronic filing rule requirements okay 449 00:42:05,250 --> 00:42:11,190 and let's see if we have any new questions that have come in 450 00:42:19,350 --> 00:42:25,050 okay we have a question this is more about the US council rules it says we 451 00:42:25,050 --> 00:42:31,170 are a u.s. corporation using an attorney why do we need to provide Attorney Bar 452 00:42:31,170 --> 00:42:36,690 Association information I thought this was only for foreign applicants Bob 453 00:42:36,690 --> 00:42:42,840 would you be able to answer oh yeah sure no the rule does require attorney bar 454 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,650 info for the attorneys that are appearing as primary attorney in the 455 00:42:46,650 --> 00:42:52,710 record so that is in the US council rule and the reason for it is we need to be 456 00:42:52,710 --> 00:42:57,630 able to verify that the person who has identified themselves as an attorney is 457 00:42:57,630 --> 00:43:02,370 an attorney and is the attorney that they say they are so it's to help us 458 00:43:02,370 --> 00:43:06,750 sort of police some of the improper activities that we've been seeing in the 459 00:43:06,750 --> 00:43:17,120 last couple of years okay let's see if we got anything else 460 00:43:18,940 --> 00:43:26,360 the question is with this new car form the correspondence address and attorney 461 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:32,150 representation form will there still be an open text box filled in the form it 462 00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:37,790 depends on the type of information that you're trying to provide for the most 463 00:43:37,790 --> 00:43:44,030 part this is a dedicated filled form and so there will be prompts for all of the 464 00:43:44,030 --> 00:43:47,060 information that you would want to provide there will be an owner 465 00:43:47,060 --> 00:43:51,740 information page an attorney information page a domestic representatives 466 00:43:51,740 --> 00:43:59,060 information page and those pages are crafted specially for the type of change 467 00:43:59,060 --> 00:44:02,840 you're trying to make so the attorney information page may be modified 468 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:08,360 depending on whether or not this is a replacement versus an appointment of a 469 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:16,730 newly appearing attorney and the there's now a question about this goes back to 470 00:44:16,730 --> 00:44:23,840 petitions evidence I think this is Carrie it's if the problem if there's an 471 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:28,010 outage and the problem is on the customer's end as opposed to the USPTO S 472 00:44:28,010 --> 00:44:35,600 and what type of evidence do they need to submit in general a declaration 473 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:41,030 saying that you had an internet outage that day or whatever the problem may be 474 00:44:41,030 --> 00:44:45,170 a power outage that would be fine as long as it's a statement accompanied 475 00:44:45,170 --> 00:44:52,490 with a signed declaration thank you we've got a question asking us if 476 00:44:52,490 --> 00:44:56,810 there's any plan to integrate into a single form a request to divide an 477 00:44:56,810 --> 00:45:03,410 extension request and a statement of use I think that's a great idea I'll take 478 00:45:03,410 --> 00:45:09,350 that question I'll certainly add it to our backlog we did not have the time to 479 00:45:09,350 --> 00:45:15,260 do this and our next release will be dedicated to more login issues so I 480 00:45:15,260 --> 00:45:19,880 certainly think this is something that we can explore for a future release down 481 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:25,660 the line please keep the questions coming we have a few more minutes 482 00:45:32,540 --> 00:45:40,460 the here's a question its if an applicant registrant is represented by 483 00:45:40,460 --> 00:45:46,100 an attorney is it still required to include an email address for the 484 00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:52,820 applicant registrant and then the second part to that question is can you use the 485 00:45:52,820 --> 00:45:59,020 attorney's email address in the applicant the owner email address field 486 00:45:59,020 --> 00:46:07,670 so as far as using the the owner and attorney email address as being the same 487 00:46:07,670 --> 00:46:13,280 that we cannot do the rule very specifically states that we need the 488 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:19,610 individual email address of both the trademark owner and the appointed 489 00:46:19,610 --> 00:46:24,080 attorney I'm sorry was there a second part to that question I think you 490 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:28,310 answered the first part right whether they needed to have an applicant email 491 00:46:28,310 --> 00:46:33,350 address in addition to an attorney and rule requires both yes and the form 492 00:46:33,350 --> 00:46:38,330 itself is going to prompt you for that information if you do enter an owner 493 00:46:38,330 --> 00:46:43,490 email address on the owner information page that then matches the email address 494 00:46:43,490 --> 00:46:47,630 that's entered at the attorney information page you will receive an 495 00:46:47,630 --> 00:46:51,860 error that will prevent you from moving forward in the forum because these email 496 00:46:51,860 --> 00:47:00,080 addresses should be individual to the specific person okay we have a question 497 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:06,140 asking us what are the different types of widespread outages can we give an 498 00:47:06,140 --> 00:47:16,910 example well in the past I would say we had a huge power outage at the USPTO in 499 00:47:16,910 --> 00:47:24,980 2015 I think that was that was one of those situations I don't remember 500 00:47:24,980 --> 00:47:29,420 anything more recently do you where we declared 501 00:47:29,420 --> 00:47:36,740 an outage no that was the most recent one and then we have another person we 502 00:47:36,740 --> 00:47:41,390 that it's asking if you have to submit an email address for the applicant 503 00:47:41,390 --> 00:47:46,099 registrant if they're represented by a and the answer again is yes the rule 504 00:47:46,099 --> 00:47:51,380 requires both an applicant register at the owner email address as well as the 505 00:47:51,380 --> 00:48:01,660 attorney email address let's see if there's anything else that's out there 506 00:48:03,249 --> 00:48:13,160 there's a question about where are the forms located if the system goes down we 507 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:18,019 will not be able to access them is if T's is down so how do we find the 508 00:48:18,019 --> 00:48:24,890 information that we need in order to file our petition right so this is a 509 00:48:24,890 --> 00:48:29,569 great question and something we hope doesn't happen but that's why I 510 00:48:29,569 --> 00:48:36,349 encourage everyone to bookmark the page where all the outages information is 511 00:48:36,349 --> 00:48:43,099 going to be posted and also to download a PDF copy of the petition to director 512 00:48:43,099 --> 00:48:47,059 cover sheet which will have the checklist of all the requirements and I 513 00:48:47,059 --> 00:48:53,359 don't Tanja might know better where the PDFs are posted for the the t's form 514 00:48:53,359 --> 00:48:57,950 previews that would also be a good thing to save so that you have them at your 515 00:48:57,950 --> 00:49:03,109 disposal so you know if you're filing a response to office action there will be 516 00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:09,410 a preview PDF created that you can you know fill out by hand and send in and 517 00:49:09,410 --> 00:49:14,089 they in the event our website is down right and right now those t's PDF 518 00:49:14,089 --> 00:49:19,009 previews are located underneath each of the relevant T's forms so underneath the 519 00:49:19,009 --> 00:49:25,400 initial application form you'll see the preview PDF we we have plans to make 520 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:31,099 them easier to find and and to add them on the outages gotcha so you're in a few 521 00:49:31,099 --> 00:49:38,150 weeks you'll you'll see them in a more centralized location we've got another 522 00:49:38,150 --> 00:49:45,170 question this is about the about changing address it says if you simply 523 00:49:45,170 --> 00:49:50,329 want to file a change of address for the law firm that represents the applicant 524 00:49:50,329 --> 00:49:55,340 or registrar do you need to include the owner email 525 00:49:55,340 --> 00:50:01,340 with that law firm change-of-address that's a good question if you have not 526 00:50:01,340 --> 00:50:08,420 previously provided an owner email address the form will prompt you when 527 00:50:08,420 --> 00:50:14,240 you access that initial set of wizard questions you'll be presented with 528 00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:18,080 options for things like do you want to update the information for the trademark 529 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:22,760 owner do you want to update the information for the already appointed 530 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:28,520 attorney if you answer yes to only the question for updating the information of 531 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:34,370 the appointed attorney when in fact you also have information missing for the 532 00:50:34,370 --> 00:50:38,870 trademark owner you are going to receive an error message telling you that you 533 00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:43,580 must answer yes to the question for providing whatever the missing 534 00:50:43,580 --> 00:50:48,890 information is for the trademark owner so then both pages will present within 535 00:50:48,890 --> 00:50:58,940 the forum we have a new question that's about owner email addresses it's if the 536 00:50:58,940 --> 00:51:04,970 applicant is a corporation and not an individual what email address should be 537 00:51:04,970 --> 00:51:12,440 years and I I think that that's it has to be an email address that is owned by 538 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:17,330 the corporation so as opposed to a third party so whatever your corporate email 539 00:51:17,330 --> 00:51:23,270 address is that's the email address that you would include in the forum do you 540 00:51:23,270 --> 00:51:28,940 all agree yeah has to be a contact person at the corporate entity I would 541 00:51:28,940 --> 00:51:36,830 say their email address right and we've we've had a lot of questions about the 542 00:51:36,830 --> 00:51:46,040 the slides and and the where they are located I wanted to let you all know 543 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:51,080 that the slides are currently on the events page on the USPTO website and 544 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:56,330 that we are going to post this recording so that you can review it it'll be 545 00:51:56,330 --> 00:52:02,090 posted as soon as it's available so in a shortly please let us know if you have 546 00:52:02,090 --> 00:52:08,250 any other questions there is a slight delay from when they come in 547 00:52:08,250 --> 00:52:11,359 when I'm seeing them 548 00:52:23,230 --> 00:52:28,329 do you have guys have any other things that you think we could raise while we 549 00:52:28,329 --> 00:52:34,440 wait for the milk my servers a little slow 550 00:52:43,740 --> 00:52:52,010 here's one we have the this question appears to be related to login it's 551 00:52:52,010 --> 00:53:00,030 asking whether you can use the Authenticator app to log in as opposed 552 00:53:00,030 --> 00:53:10,349 to waiting for for an email when when you log in so when you signup to log in 553 00:53:10,349 --> 00:53:15,000 to the t's forms you have to use two-factor authentication which means 554 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:20,280 the USPTO will be sending you a code and that code will come to you either by 555 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:25,920 email or by phone or by use of an Authenticator app and you're right if 556 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:32,460 you if you want do not want to wait for the email to arrive because it there can 557 00:53:32,460 --> 00:53:37,290 be a delay either with your email server or with the USPTO server you can 558 00:53:37,290 --> 00:53:46,290 download a free Authenticator app from from your one of your the providers out 559 00:53:46,290 --> 00:53:51,089 there and use that an old general automatically generate a six digit code 560 00:53:51,089 --> 00:53:54,270 there's instructions if you go to our website up in the upper right-hand 561 00:53:54,270 --> 00:54:00,510 corner in the my uspto.gov section there are instructions for how to download an 562 00:54:00,510 --> 00:54:05,880 Authenticator app and use it to log into our system so that you don't have to 563 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:12,480 wait for an email from the USPTO and if you have any issues when trying to log 564 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:19,800 in or set up either the password or receiving the six digit code please 565 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:26,150 don't hesitate to email us at t--'s at uspto.gov and we'll gladly assist you 566 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:34,650 okay if there are no more questions right now we will close the session and 567 00:54:34,650 --> 00:54:39,720 thank everyone for their time and if after the session it ends up that there 568 00:54:39,720 --> 00:54:44,040 are more questions that come in we will post them as well on the web page so 569 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:49,770 that you can see the answers and if you have any individualized questions please 570 00:54:49,770 --> 00:54:54,930 don't hesitate to email us at TEAS@uspto.gov will gladly answer all of your 571 00:54:54,930 --> 00:54:57,630 questions in any that you can think of in the 572 00:54:57,630 --> 00:55:04,250 upcoming weeks and we look forward to mandatory electronic filing and 573 00:55:04,250 --> 00:55:10,760 assurance will be a smooth transition thanks a lot and have a nice day!